Discussion: LePage's Best Argument In Veto Fight Could Also Cause The Most Chaos

Sometimes I am amazed that when it comes to really fundamental questions of law–how property ownership begins; what is speech; what does adjournment mean–everyone just “knows” the answer, so it never gets written down in the first place.

Exactly, he is of that school that “government does not work” chaos would prove it…

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“[T]he Governor reasonably believed other events were sufficient to trigger the three-day procedure,” the brief says. “

A) Ignorance of the law is not excuse. B) LePage is not in anyway reasonable.

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And so laws get written when what everyone “knows” turns out to differ from one person to another.

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LD

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Ain’t that the ever lovin’ truth!

LD

Ah, good old slash-and-burn Republican governance! If he does get impeached, look for him to torch the governor’s mansion on the way out.

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out of his what…? Oh, those whacky Maine-iacs!

Ty. On it!

Dmitry Bam

That’s a cool name.

More examples of Republicans’ taking responsibility for their mistakes and prudent management of taxpayer’s money.

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Why didn’t LePage just hire competent advisors?

If that wasn’t deliberate snark, claim it was anyway, because it is truly fine.

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A big part of the problem is that many of those fundamentals date back to Roman law, passed down via English common law before the real transformation to the modern world.

It turns out that LePage’s argument may not be as strong as he believes.

LePage signed into law several bills that were passed after June 17, implying that he found them to be handled by the lege in an appropriate manner. So he’s being inconsistent in his own assessment of the June 17th cutoff: it’s not an issue with the bills he wanted enacted, only with the ones he wanted to veto.

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Reductio ad absurdum.
The inevitable outcome of being a nation of laws.
Where is the Queen of Hearts when we need her?

The court should find him in contempt and jail him. Although there should be an evidentiary hearing to see if he’d be better off in a psychiatric institution.

A critical piece of info left out of this reporting: how common or how unprecedented is “not following” the “adjournment statute” in the way it was described? Is this something that is commonly done, or is it really a mistake that the legislature made?

If commonly done, then would strictly enforcing it now give grounds to overturning any and all laws passed (going back years? decades? centuries?) during situations like this?

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as is the case with congress, the Maine Legislature makes its own rules. unless a rule is clearly unconstitutional, I’d be surprised if any Maine court would willingly insert itself into the Legislature’s rule making.

if, for the sake of argument, the court decided to accept the case, that leaves the issue of the most recent argument provided by the Gov’s attorneys which, if accepted by the court, would render all legislation, including the budget, passed after the 17th null and void. except, the Gov’s attorneys want the court to only have their ruling affect the laws in question, not everything that was passed, so as to avoid chaos. I don’t see the court buying this. my guess is they would tell the Gov it’s either all or nothing, you don’t get to pick and choose which laws are and aren’t affected, because the statute doesn’t allow for that.

it’s possible that, idiotic as LePage is, he’d tell his lawyers to go for it, the horrible effects on everyone in the state be damned. for this reason, I expect the court to drop this, and tell the Gov. to suck it up, get his ass in gear, and get those vetoes to the legislature in a timely manner if he wants them accepted.

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It is not Cutler’s fault. His voters KNEW what would happen with a split of center left votes. They got what they deserved.