And the medical malpractice suit will be revealed in 10, 9, 8, 7, …
1 Like
Gosh, I want to argue, but it’s air-tight.
You win.
2 Likes
Yes, sounds similar to the one case I’ve personally experienced. Head-on collision, other driver’s fault 100% (she drove into the oncoming lane: me). Thought I came out of it unhurt, but after a day or so realized I’d done something nasty to my wrist (elbows locked and hands jammed on the steering wheel while I screamed Ooooohhhh SHIT!) and went to my Dr to have it checked out. Just a sprain, not serious. Forgot about it. But then my insurance carrier refused to pay the bill because it was related to an accident. They required me to file the claim against the other insurer. Fortunately the latter paid up without objection. But I could imagine in a case like this one, where your insurer says the other one is responsible and the other one denies it, you could end up looking at huge bill and have no choice but to grind through an exceedingly absurd legal action like this.
Two words: Single. Payer.
4 Likes
Yup. A few years back I injured my knee while hiking. My insurer paid for some test and a couple of rounds of physical therapy. About a year later, I get a call from said insurer (a respected outfit in this area, and not cheap) digging for details on the original injury: where did it happen? How? Private or public property? Did anyone else’s actions pay a role in the injury?
I wonder what percentage of the lawsuits out there are driven not by greedy plaintiffs, but by insurance companies trying to get out of paying for medical care, or recoup the costs of providing it.
3 Likes
No, that would be too easy and it would give people “free stuff,” just like they’re given free schools, free roads to ride on, free military and police protection, free fire departments, and free parks. Can’t have that.
Yes please, and yesterday thanks.
This type of nonsense doesn’t get counted as part of the cost of health care, but the ridiculous hoops people have to jump through, just to get their basic needs met, takes an enormous toll.
1 Like
Which qualifies you to diagnosis a patient and injury you have never met nor examined? Please, at least Frist was an actual doctor when he pulled this schtick.
I’m not defending her, I’m attacking your absurd assertion that because you had your wrist worked on once that qualifies you to judge the level of treatment necessary to treat her injury. The fact that your injury took one surgery has absolutely no bearing on the feasibility of her injury taking multiple surgeries.
You asserted that her claim is suspicious because it doesn’t parallel your experience, despite not knowing the extent of her injury, not have examined her injury, or, even if you had done all that, being in possession of the specialized medical training necessary to judge how her injury might differ from your own or what significance those differences might have on a course of treatment. It was an entirely specious and irrelevant point and when you were called out on that point you got defensive. I then called out the absurdity of that defense and I stand by the comment. Whether or not she is exaggerating her injury or whatever any of the other merits of the case maybe, unless you have access to her medical file and the medical training necessary to diagnosis the differences between her case and your own, you aren’t in a position to judge the feasibility of the course of treatment that is being alleged.
Edit: Look I agree with a lot of your comments on this board, and leaving aside everything to do with this particular case, but asserting that just because you have had a superficially similar injury in the past one is qualified to comment on the feasibility of a course of treatment taken in another unrelated case is absurd on its face.
1 Like
ANY time you get physical therapy for anything you get that letter, yup. They ain’t gonna pay if they can find someone else to do it.
And you don’t know any more than this person does who didn’t break their wrists. My son has broken his wrist. He’s an athlete. The bone wasn’t healing correctly and he required two more surgeries. It took almost 18 months, three surgeries and physical therapy to finally get it right. He was seen by one of the orthopoedic surgeons who treats the bones of our pro football team. Are you a doctor? Did you see her x-rays? Why would you EVER believe that your case had anything to do with her case? Or for that matter my son’s case. Your experience sheds no light at all on this case.
My husband has Parkinsons. Anyone else who has Parkinsons has a completely different set of issues than my husband.Your personal experience in no way makes you authority on wrists. Not only that it’s clear that you aren’t reading that the real issue most likely wasn’t this woman’s desire to sue her family but rather the lack of access to healthcare with no questions asked. This appears to be caused by fights between this woman’s insurance company and the homeowner’s insurance company. That this woman’s healthcare insurer was refusing to pay for her necessary treatments and demanding that she attempt to collect from the homeowners insurance instead.
So your comments should be focused on the true bad actors in this story instead of making up things that you can’t possibly know.
What you said! Co-signed.
You have ONE real world experience" but not hers. As I said, I have just as much of your touted “real world experience” with parkinsons, brain tumors, shattered shoulders and Crohn’s Disease to know that it doesn’t matter what YOUR experience with it is. Each one of these health issues, including wrists, unless it’s your break, your fall, your experience, your ability to heal YOU KNOW JUST AS MUCH ABOUT IT AS SOMEONE WHO HAS NEVER HAD THE EXPERIENCE. In other words, nothing.
Your “real world experience” counts just as much as having no experience. That’s what I’m saying.
I have no opinoin whether she is honest or not. I do know that when I worked at law firms and we represented insurance companies they often required this type of suit to claw back money. If that’s not the case I really don’t care. I’m just saying explicitly that you know nothing about her wrist. And the fact that you’ve broken your wrist, just as my son has broken his wrist and needed three surgeries, still doesn’t tell us anything about HER wrist. What I find silly is that you believe is that because you have an experience that means you know anything about anyone else. You simply don’t. And I know that I’m not the only one who has said this to you.
It counts as YOUR experience. And I’m sure it was really tramatic. No one is minimizing your suffering. I know when I had my first dance injury on my right shoulder it was really difficult to learn how to re-use my arm. But that experience taught me absolutely NOTHING about how my experience with shattering my shoulder 2 years later would go. In one case I needed pins in to the shoulder and couldn’t use the arm for six months. In the other case, it was much less invasive and I could use it after six weeks. They were just very different cases AND IT WAS IN ONE BODY. So if my shoulder injury couldn’t tell me anything about my next shoulder injury, then your wrist injury no matter how painful and horrible a recovery, doesn’t tell us about her injury. I wasn’t using scare quotes, I’m stating the obvious that your experience isn’t her experience, sometihng which you refuse to believe. One of my best friends has a brain tumor right now. I’m sure you are one of the rude people who walk up and attempt to tell her all about what happened to your cousin and why it’s “exactly” the same thing. As I said, I’ve had a son who almost died this year of Crohn’s Disease, I have a husband with Parkinsons, it’s one of the rudest things you can do to assume that you know anything about someone else’s medical case because of your own experience with something similar. They just aren’t equatable.
You are the one who is failing at compassion. You are making assumptions that show a distinct lack of empathy.
Look at you you have to call me names because I stated the obvious, which is your experience tells us absolutely zero about anyone else’s experience. And when being confronted with that reality you have become rude and completely unhinged.
- I never defended the woman in this lawsuit. I just said you don’t know about her wrist because you’ve had a broken wrist. Your wrist tells us nothing about her wrist.
- I’m not in the same line of work. I believe my statement was in the past tense “when I worked at law firms.” BTW I was a 17 year old, self-supporting kid out of foster care. I was really lucky to have a good job in a corporate law firm. Did I learn that wasn’t what I wanted to do with my life? Yes. It’s why I’m a 53 year old social entrepreneur now.
- It’s funny. Knowlege about the law you completely discount, being that I worked at a law firm over 30 years ago and have some experience with this idea of “clawing back,” money. Again, I never said that I approved of it or thought it was a good idea, I merely said it’s a concept in the law.
Your jumping to conclusions and complete lack of empathy is now on display for all to see.
Stop making me into a villain. It is egregiously offensive. Stop calling me names for stating the obvious. I wasn’t in a “racket.” I was a 17 year old who came out of foster care and worked as a legal secretary to keep a roof over my head and to feed myself until I was 24. If you think a secretary who types up letters is “in a racket” then 90% of people who have jobs are “in rackets.” Your problem is that you don’t actively listen, instead ascribing things that don’t exist. You make giant leaps that aren’t in evidence. This conversation started with your giant leap that you somehow believe you know something about anyone else’s broken wrist because you’ve had a broken wrist. And then making a giant leap that because someone gave you pushback that you can’t know anything about this person’s wrist, you have made the leap that somehow we aren’t being as concerned and solicitious about your pain and suffering.
Again, no matter how much pain you went through, no matter what happened to your wrist, it still tells you NOTHING about anyone else’s wrist. Given that I am a caretaker to two different people with grave illnesses, I really know of what I speak. It is the height of entitlement and rudeness to presume that YOUR illness says anything about my illness or anyone elses illnesses.
I don’t care about the woman in the story at all. If you want to continue being rude, then have it. YOU are the one without care or concern for others. Your every word, action and behavior demonstrates you as a poor listener, self-absorbed and self-involved to the point that you can’t even see how rude you are being.
Thanks! Great conversation. I’m not a troll. I’m just an ordinary person. But you are a very sick, angry and hateful human. So sorry that you lack both epathy and the willingness to engage in conversation.
You are the one who is being annoying. We are just attempting to get you to be behave with some semblance of humanity. But it is clear that you are incapable of this feat.
You are a very sad, sick human. Truly disgusting. Shame on you.