Discussion: Key Senate Republican Says House Bill Raises 'More Questions Than Answers'

Except for a curious facial tic of smiling insincerely and an abnormally deep-seated hatred of humanity, everything else is just minor variation in plumage, habitat, and diet.

fify? maybe? sorta? covered all the bases?

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We know that goddamn liar Collins will vote to kill Obamacare.

There won’t be a vote. Period. It’s DOA.

To accurately explain the fate of H.R. 1628: American Health Care Act of 2017, I direct you to this helpful video. Simply replace the word “parrot” with “H.R. 1628: American Health Care Act of 2017”:

Don’t be complacent! Nothing will give McConnell more pleasure than spitting on Obama. I believe McConnell hates Obama so much he will kill the filibuster and end the ACA.

All hell is going to break loose now for those whores who voted for Trumpcare. The next set of Town Halls are going to make the previous ones look like a Studio 54 Disco Party. Congressmen ought to remember how angry crowds chased Dan Rostenkowski down the street and threw rocks at him…

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Collins talks a good game but never really actually does anything but vote the GOP party line. You would think the people of Maine were smarter than that, but then you look at their governor and you begin to understand why Collin’s bearing false witness always works so well.

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As Republican senators announced they were working on their own alternative bill, Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) weighed in with a lengthy statement criticizing the House version, which she said raises “more questions than answers about its consequences.”

What’s questionable about a tax cut masquerading as a healthcare bill?

Seems pretty clear to me.

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Your party created this monstrosity Susan, and sold it in part by claiming Maine had a successful high risk pool You know that’s a lie. Go ahead. Run for governor. I hope they bury you with this monstrosity as an epitaph reading “I never spoke up!”

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Ditto that for Murkowski.

If they repealed the tax on the capital gains of those making more than $250,000/year which is the real purpose of this monstrosity then there is no funding for the subsidies.

Watching Lawrence O’Donnell. The consensus is that the same moderates who opposed the first health bill supported this more extreme version because it is all about the tax bill to come. They cannot cut all the taxes on the top brackets in a tax cut bill without eliminating the O-Care taxes on the wealthy that helps pay for O-Care. We will have a four year Robin Hood in reverse term in which wealth will be redistributed from the poor to the rich because (mostly) poor people with authoritarian streaks voted for the idiot-in-chief.

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someone here posted a link that showed that something like the 11 states with the highest rates of preexisting conditions are all red states. assuming for the sake of wanting it to be awesome that those are mainly republican voters, it’s awesome.

Why, Susan, what an insipid way of saying nothing.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/05/donald-trump-obamacare-repeal-timeline-238016

This story from politico explains it very well. Trump perceived a grievance, and wouldn’t let go of it. He didn’t know what was in the bill, nor did he even care. He just had to have the PR framing that he got something done.

To make that even clearer, if it wasn’t already, the absurd kegger they held at the White House to celebrate should crystallize it completely. Getting a bill out of the House by the skin of their teeth is no cause for celebration; particularly when the bill is so horribly written that the Senate will be killing it immediately in its present form.

Its the kid doing victory laps down the school halls like he just graduated top of his class, when all he did was turn in a F book report a month late.

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That is insane “logic”. Assuming the Senate does take up health care (and there will be quite a lot of pressure on them to do so, if only to go through the motions), they will consume rest of this year and most of next just trying to deal with getting such a bill written, through committee, passed in the Senate, reconciled with the House, then passed again by both the House and Senate.

There will be no tax bill, because there will be no time to deal with it.

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Boils down to how many people can you fool all of the time and how long will democrats ignore the middle of the country.

That’s unlikely. The funding they set aside for high risk pools isn’t even remotely in the ball park for what conservative estimates are saying will be needed. People who will be forced into those pools don’t just magically disappear from the CBO’s analysis; they will estimate that a much higher pecentage of them will end up losing coverage.

Additionally, they will also consider the drastic cuts to Medicaid, which will also significantly boost the number of people losing coverage, as well as make some conservative estimates on the solvency of Medicare…which is also moved up rather dramatically by this.

Finally, the changes to EHBs and the option to opt out of those AND pre existing conditions will have a direct impact upon employer based healthcare…resulting in a significant increase in people losing coverage.

The analysis you are painting is way to narrow for what the OCB does and will do. Because this bill affects so many things, the CBO has to score the impact of everything it touches.

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She said something. She said lets look at the CBO’s report. She said these idiots passed a bill and didn’t bother to look at the effect on the population as a whole and the effect on rural poor (Trump’s people).

It makes sense to me that while the CBO might for one reason or another look a little more favorably on one aspect or another of Stinkurger II, it’s such a toxic mess from so many finance angles that it’s going to be an excellent basis for ripping the GOP as a whole apart. After all, if the new estimate is “only” 20 mil kicked off insurance, the GOP isn’t going to be printing up brochures crowing about it.

Then I will be happily wrong. The rush again to pass the foul thing without scoring is an indication that it won’t be a pretty score, but the GOP will take some positive element, such as “70% of insurance buyers will see a drop in premiums’” and repeat it endlessly until the TV reporters are saying the words without even thinking about it: “the CBO says your plan lowers premiums, but some are concerned that high-risk patients won’t be able to afford care. How do you respond?”

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i got nothing except this*FUCK YOU SUSAN COLLINS