And if you were here earlier THIS is what I predicted. (Thank you, I also read tea leaves and entrails).
The combination of the cost to roll out the damn ACA to begin with combined with the fact that they’d lose a significant part of the healthy in society means the ACA will be here a while.
And I HOPE LIKE HELL this burns the feral trumpers asses off!! ACA = in; Medicare = potentially out.
So you still plan to throw the nation into medical bankruptcy, you’re just not going to do it right away. How very kind of you.
True story from the early days of Medicare Advantage, that huge boondoggle for the insurance companies where they were paid 120% of the estimated cost of traditional Medicare. MA plans popped up all over and they weren’t well regulated in the beginning. BIG MONEY was made, too.
I was living out west at the time and when I’d come east to visit Mom, I’d take her and her group of friends out to dinner. Early bird special was a big hit. The restaurant of choice (“Oh, they have the best apple dumplings” - heard it a dozen times) had a 2nd floor that could be rented out for events, etc. One Medicare Advantage plan - not naming names - used to hold their sign-up events upstairs. No elevator, just stairs. The idea being, of course, to weed out the people who might not be able to climb a flight of stairs.
Seriously - true story.
Not a crazy notion at all.
Trump will only become more indefensible with time, and 2018 isn’t far away. One more year and a lot of GOPsters will start worrying about their seats. Imagine how much of a super-sized mess Trump will have created a year from now (if he’s not impeached by then because of the Trump U trial).
but FREEDOM!!1111
There should be a something other than a like for this kind of story.
Appalling.
You are absolutely right. Let me add - as I have mentioned before - that, simply put, the Republicans dont have the Senate votes to repeal ACA and, in addition, they don’t have the votes to get Reconciliation. So, the Democrats should go after these liars and demagogues with everything they’ve got, including the introduction of legislation to fix the ACA’s problems, including allowing early buy-in to Medicare. And this legislation should be introduced on the first day if the new Congress.
The thing to remember about Ryan and a lot of other people in Congress is, they have never really held a job in the private sector, let alone a job that required them to negotiate or provide insurance or run an insurance company or a health care provider that actually has to provide uncompensated care. I mean, I have no idea what will happen, but burning down the house first without knowing where you plan to spend the night is a stupid thing to do. It’s going to occur to more and more people. Hopefully it will be enough. And God help us if there is a recession, which is not the time to kick people off insurance.
Not to be the overly-sensitive type we’re all oft accused of being, but you might want to stop using the -tard and extra chromosome references. Pretty offensive to lots of people.
After all this time they should have had something ready to go. A bill already drafted. It’s ridiculous that they don’t already at least have something more concrete in the works.
My guess is that they do but they know its bad and the public will be pissed all so they will be slow rolling it. They also know this is all on them and will have a hard time blaming Democrats or Pres. Obama blocking for their shitty plan
OR
that all these years they’ve been just play acting this repeal thing to give their base something to cream themselves over.
Either way it truly doesn’t make sense that they are so evasive and coy acting at this time. To me, either shit or get off the pot. I wish the “liberal” media would have the guts to call them out on this.
So the 60+ times they voted to repeal the ACA were all done with no phase-out or replacement plan? I guess they didn’t mind wreaking havoc in the lives of millions of Americans on Obama’s watch.
“HANDS OFF MY MEDICARE!!!”
That was the rallying hue and cry from seniors at every informational meeting given by Congress-critters during the drafting and roll-out of Obamacare, even though the threat was bogus–another case of right-wing bubble-talk. Now that the threat is real, we need to scream it over and over and over.
They all have more important things to do anyway, like trying to repeal the 13th and 14th amendments.
Well, let’s see is this repeal, replace thing can last as long as Benghazi!
And this is why they will leave the filibuster in place. They need the cover.
I wonder what these fools would do if they had a real job.
Get fired.
So, Obamacare will remain for years but the GOP will privatize Medicare in 2017.
I wonder if those white middle age and senior voters for Trump have heard this yet.
Heads will explode when they realize they will be losing Medicare benefits.
Yup. Some people never understood why the wingnuts were so opposed to the individual mandate even though it was their idea. They didn’t hate the mandate - they hated the requirement that private insurers spend a fair amount on actual services rather than pocket 75% of the premiums and then claim they couldn’t pay. That’s what we’re in for in the next couple of years.
Ha!.Good one.
There is talk of the Republicans not ditching the filibuster. If that’s true, it’s because they’ll repeal, insert poison pills into a “replacement” that dems filibuster, then say, “We tried to work with the minority party on real health care, but they blocked everything, so blame them.” One guess as to how the media will report this.
Is there evidence of this? A cursory glance at his positions don’t appear to back up that sentiment, although I have not read every item here.
http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Lamar_Alexander.htm