(Almost) nobody is saying to destroy it, just move it to a heritage museum or something like that.
Thatās what it looks like to about half of the South as well.
I read this yesterday and Iām ready to go.
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āAll we want is a fair hearing, all we want is to let the people know that this is part of our heritage, and you canāt just erase history by tearing down monuments,ā McAdam told the Courier-Journal. āThatās what the Taliban does, thatās what ISIS does. We donāt do that in America."
Judge Judith McDonald-Burkman agreed.
āThe Court finds that the plaintiffs will suffer immediate and irreparable harm if, during the pendency of this litigation, Defendants are allowed to continue with their stated plan to dismantle and remove the Confederate Monument from its present location,ā she wrote in the order against Fisher, the city government and university president James Ramsey, according to the newspaper.
The Courtās ruling agrees with the petitionersā request to keep the statue in place until the hearing is concluded. The ruling does not equate to an agreement by the Court with the argument that the ultimate removal of the statue would be the equivalent of book-burning.
Since when has the Kentucky GOP had a problem with book burning?
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Double Amen!!
Not without chicken and waffles.
Just curiousā¦since George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and many others had slaves, should we tear down the Washington Monument, the Jefferson Memorial, rename countless cities, including the nations Capitol, and untold thousands of streets?
Seriously I am really at a loss to figure this out.
Any polite responses are welcomed!
the fact is, Iām not in favor of book burning.ā
Flip-flopperā¦
ā¦"All we want is a fair hearing. Black church bombings that killed children, lynchings, beatings, slavery of black folk and cross burnings are all part of cherished Confederate heritage. You tear down this monument, you may as well lynch white folk too. Christian God forbid!
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Let it stand! The city should erect large signs on all four sides of this thing.
āThis is a monument to the folly of those who killed 600,000 Americans in a futile attempt to continue the enslavement of African peopleā
Or something more eloquent than that.
I got yer āheritageā right hereā¦
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Not sure that anybody wants to erase history. That is not true at all. The issue is about the pride they want to support here. For whatever reason they are proud of a heritage that kept slaves and fought to maintain it. It should be taught, never forgot and the history should be taught in an accurate way. There were many interesting people in the South too.
The issue is, should something like slavery be exalted in a monument in town square?
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Good people of Lāville: Build your monument to this:
http://insiderlouisville.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/HotBrown-650.jpg
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There is nothing laudable in celebrating a treasonous secession and war, which were meant to protect the legal institution of slavery. We should have clamped down on any attempt to sugar coat the Confederacy 150 years ago. But its never too late. All symbols of that government and all celebration of its history should be banned from public spaces and be instantly met with derision and rebuke.
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Well those folks did have some redeeming qualities even if they werenāt perfect. Whereas the southās position pretty much didnāt have any redeeming reasons behind it, in spite of all the cries of states rights. I think we just have to make sure we donāt try and cover up, but acknowledging that our white leaders were prejudiced, point out they were better than the folks that came before them and the ones that wanted to separate from them, but still needed the folks that followed them to keep working, even now unfortunately, to fix things.
Edit: I think I mentioned this elsewhere but I recently saw 2 memorials in two small middle southern PA towns to honor to Union soldiers that fought to keep the union. Most interesting thing about that to me was a lot of folks that move to NC from above the mason dixon line claim northerners never talk much about the civil war like southerners do.
Anyway seems like we just need a better way to have the memorials more as a reminder of something bad that happened with a hope that it never happens again, rather than the way a lot of southerners seeming to think of them, as honoring folks that were standing up for some good right, but were wrongly defeated, and who might try again!
Edit 2: This is a pretty good article and a the main point it makes, that I agree with, is that these memorials and the stars and bars are probably more about telling black folks that white southerners may have lost the war, but they were still the boss of black folks.
http://www.forwardprogressives.com/i-am-a-southerner-and-the-confederate-flag-doesnt-represent-me/
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No, honoring losers and supporting hatred is unAmerican and thus the confederate flag shall be forbiddenā¦didnāt Stonewall Jackson say, put the confederate flag away?
Just as Scalia would say, āGet Over Itā!
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As a Civil War buff who honors all CW veterans who served honorably, Confederate and Union,I hope the monument stays. But I understand that it is local politics that will ultimately determine itās fate.
Erectile dysfunction.
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Unless they serve it with tabasco, in which case, TEAR IT DOWN!
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A monument isnāt speech. Itās a commemoration of something important or honorableā¦and those standards may change over time. Thereās certainly no right to have a monument, especially when itās on public property.
If they want their āheritageā to be remembered, they could write an actual book or something. Now thatās free speech!
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