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Cruz will likely destroy Drumpf in this one.
It’s early, only 3% reporting, but yeah, he might win it.
Although the polls show that Trump will win it.
Granted it is early, but I think Drumpf is going to lose this one. I think his “debate” performance really damaged him and FiveThirtyEgith had Drumpf barely ahead with just the bare min. number of polls to even have projected forecast and that was mostly pre-debate data.
Could be wrong of course, but with over 11% reporting, Cruz is just at the 50% threshold, and Drumpf is floundering under 25%.
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Reading the tea leaves from cable news, I think Cruz will take Kansas and Maine.
I’m not surprised that Cruz is winning what is probably the most retrograde GOP state. I am a little surprised that Rubio is doing so very poorly.
LaPage’s endorsement in Maine may actually hurt Drumpf there.
Well TPM’s link to the Maine results doesn’t work (quell surprise).
But this may be a really good day for Cruz. Now the question is, what will that do for the race and the GOP in their quest to stop Drumpf?
Will they rally around Cruz?
While many in the party may hate Cruz on a personal level (and even professional one as well given the disasters he has wrought in Congress, Gov. shut-downs, pretensions of being a shadow Speaker of the House even though he is in the Senate, etc.) but they don’t hate him for conservative apostasy or that he is toxic down-ticket like Drumpf is.
So the GOP party and associated eco-system can and would rally behind him if it meant they could keep Drumpf from being the nominee. But it may be “too little, and too late” to not have this end in tears for them in a bitter fight in Cleveland. A fight which could still fracture the party and throw the election at the top-of-the-ticket and damage down-ballot races.
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Republican voters have a choice between a sht pie and a sht cake.
Amazing.
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“but they don’t hate him for conservative apostasy or that he is toxic down-ticket like Drumpf is.”
I respectfully question both premises. To a pre 2010 GOP rep, his apostasy is that he believes his own lies. You are supposed to throw out the red meat, not eat it yourself. He isn’t in on the joke. A Steve King can get behind him, but can an Orrin Hatch.
He’s potentially more toxic than Trump. Herr Donald invites you to join him in the bullying. Cruz is just a condescending turd who has to know more than everybody. Zero appeal to non true believers.
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Orrin Hatch and crew can’t get behind him because he is an asshole and not a team player, attacking the leadership for not being willing to burn the Senate to the ground if they don’t get the “conservative” way on everything.
That is an interpersonal and tactical fist-fight, not one as far as movement conservative positioning or policy. The GOP as a whole would rally around Cruz in a heartbeat if you go simply by his position and conservative creds. It’s that Cruz is a bomb-thrower from the back-bench making their jobs in the Senate just keeping the lights on, substantially more difficult.
That said, I agree that it is sort of the case that Cruz seems to believe the GOP own hype and pandering playbook as gospel (pun noted) but then so do most of the GOP base.
With whipped shit creme on top, no less.
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