I don’t get this stuff. He is not a Democrat. Couldn’t be simpler.
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Sanders is enabling a GOP president in 2016. He’s disgraceful.
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Already is. Just did a trumpian “She attacked me first. If I am attacked, I will fight back.”
'Cept she never ‘attacked’.
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And I’ve never heard ol’ Bernie encourage them in any way to be part of a down-ballot democratic revolution to advance his unicorns … just “Vote for MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!”
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(yawn) Mika’s showing her age…Joe still looks like Big Boy with glasses.
ONE MORE TIME, JoeScar is playing both sides of t he fence. He is saying ‘Hillary didn’t say that’ but yet HIS MSNBC was running the ‘unqualified’ BS on the crawl. Give me a break.
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He and Jeff Weaver are doubling down. That’s what people do when they are caught lying. That smarmy Weaver had the nerve to say he believed CNN or Hillary. That speaks volumes Fuck Bernie and honestly until the last week I still stayed neutral. But watching her and listening to her, this is one very tough cookie and my hat is off to her for being able to withstand all this bullshit,
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OT …
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I love her. She is miles above anyone on television or anywhere. She is an amazing woman. The smartest I’ve ever seen. She has the respect of even republicans because they know she is fair and respectful even if she disagrees
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The MSM really are a bunch of whores. Andrea Mitchell really needs to retire. She just had Weaver on again and even though her station and Joe Skar said she never said it, she allowed him to quoite Jeff Zeleny of CNN who said her mission is to disqualify Bernie. She never fucking said this and I am now sick to death of Bernie and Jeff Weaver. He is talking about playing dirty and that this may hurt the democratic party but he doesn’t care because Bernie is going to fight to the end., Fuck them
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I agree with you about Andrea Mitchell - “Clinton Derangement Syndrome” overtook her rationality a long time ago. This was just one more example of that.
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What she said was that his answers in the interview “raised questions” about who is more qualified, just as he has said that her taking contributions from Wall Street raises questions about her fitness to be POTUS. In fact,I think its fair to say that Bern has been the more negative candidate since ex-lobbyists/political consultants Tad Devine and Jeff Weaver convinced him to deviate from his original strategy of taking the high road and not engaging in personal attacks. I think that original strategy worked well for him, particularly with younger voters who were impressed with his integrity and directness, and the core intelligence and equity of his message. This turn to the negative may work with zealots, and with those who were inclined to dislike Hillary from the get go, and it may not alienate his stronger supporters, but it is backfiring with everybody else. I know at least 4 people who were supporting Bern fairly passionately who have recently had second thoughts, and have either decided to vote for Hillary in the upcoming primaries in NY and Maryland (where I live), or who are no longer sure whether they will vote for him. They don’t like the negative attacks and were troubled by his lack of depth and overall unpreparedness reflected in the NY Daily News interview.
For me, Bern was always the high integrity candidate who would have a tough road to hoe in order to win over low info swing voters in the key swing states (i.e., Ohio, Florida, Virginia) once the GOP attack machine got through with $500 MM in attacks on him, and Hillary was the more politically connected, establishment candidate with incredible qualifications for the job, more politically astute, and whose numbers already bake in 25 years of relentless (and mostly false) GOP attacks on her character (integrity, honesty and sincerity) that Bern’s campaign seems all too willing to adopt in their own attacks on her. Oh yeah, she is also a woman, and I think putting a woman in the White House would be huge, revolutionary in its own right. With this turn to angry, negative, personal attacks – often in overreaction to media reports that were inaccurate, so not fully thought through before they were articulated – Bernie has shaken my respect for his integrity. He seems more like a traditional pol doing whatever it takes to win, no matter how destructive to the party and his own chances come November (in the remote possibility he actually wins the nomination). It is so disappointing that he gave in to Devine and Weaver on this, because it is reflects badly on his integrity and his preparedness to be President, it weakens the important message that has been resonating so well, and it feeds the GOP’s purposes unnecessarily, I really think this is going to backfire, and I am not going to shed a tear when it does. Tad Devine and Jeff Weaver have done a huge disservice to a high integrity guy who was really scoring points with me and a lot of other people, at least before he turned negative. Sad!
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True, but I’m glad he did because a lot of people might not see the video or transcript. Credit where credit is due.
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JoeScar Defends Clinton: She Never Said Sanders ‘Unqualified’ To Be Prez
Well…that’s gotta be one for the record books.
His only objective was to sow division on the left. In that he most definitely succeeded. That’s what that POS lives for imo, seeing how he’s no fan of Clintons.
“I tried to get Hillary Clinton four times – three or four times – to say that Bernie Sanders was unqualified to be President of the United States,” he said. “I keep going until I get an answer or give up and after three or four attempts with Secretary Clinton, I gave up because she was not going to say the words ‘He is unqualified to be President of the United States.’”
Seriously, what kind of interviewer tries to get someone to say something over and over again that they don’t believe in? Someone with no integrity, that’s only looking for a soundbite for rank political opportunism. That’s who.
That’s not interviewing. That’s browbeating.
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Doucheborough sure tried like hell to get her to say it,
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SEN. BERNIE SANDERS: Sure. When I talk about democratic socialist, you know what I’m talking about?
Social Security, one of the most popular and important programs in this
country, developed by FDR to give dignity and security to seniors. And
it has been enormously successful at reducing poverty among seniors.
When I talk about democratic socialist, I am talking about Medicare, a
single payer health care system for the elderly. And in my view, we
should expand that concept to all people. I believe that everybody in
this country should be entitled to health care as a right. And the most
effective way to do it is through a Medicare for All single payer
program.
Plenty of democrats support Medicare for all, so how does he really believe he is not a democrat? He wants to break up the big banks, but there’s nothing particularly socialist about that since he doesn’t say (that I’ve found) that banks should be run by the gov’t.
He may be more liberal than some democrats, but I haven’t found anything yet that leads me to believe that he is actually a socialist. I don’t necessarily think he is just playing a game with the political labels, but at the very least, he appears not to understand them. I find that troubling, particularly because he may influence his supporters to pull away from the party whose goals they mostly share.
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When your spin is a bridge too far even Joe (who is anything but a Clinton fan) it might be time to reconsider your direction Mr. Sanders and stop doubling down on lies.
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I have said many times that I am more aligned in general with Bernie’s policy goals than Hillary’s, but I have grown to really dislike his approach and personality.
He objects to becoming a Democrat and retains his “Independent” label because … - why, exactly? We all know that he is to the left of most Democratic Senators. But is he really different in any material way from Sen. Warren, Sen. Franken or soon to be Sen. again Feingold? While they all work like hell to move the party as a whole in his (our) desired direction, they do so within the umbrella of the Democratic party.
I think it is hypocritical for him to run in a party election and the party should not have let him on the party ballot until he formally changed his registration. He is telling his supporters that it is OK to not be members of the Democratic Party, and I think that is a problem when he is trying to be the standard bearer for that party. If you don’t want to call yourself a Democrat and support the party, including supporting efforts to shift its positions in your desired direction, then run as an Independent. The reality has become clear that this is all about him and not really about the change he seeks. Because if it was about the goals, he would be working a lot harder for progressive down-ticket races, something that he has ignored completely.
Hillary suffered a bitter defeat in 2008, and she and Bill came around and worked very hard for Obama. I hope that Bernie can swallow his pride and arrogance and do the same this November. He owes it to the party that has welcomed him in despite him giving the party the finger whenever he can.
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Bernie is being destructive and down the road no one benefits from his irresponsible and inaccurate assumption and attack on Clinton.
Bernie’s attacks on Clinton have ratcheted up as he has won White red
Caucus States unlike Primary states that only allow registered Democrats to vote in
Primaries rather than Caucus States.
His attacks along with his campaign managers Tad Devine and Weaver have become vicious. Weaver’s assertion in NY that she’s made a deal with the Devil is part of the current onslaught.
Clearly Pure Bernie is not so pure. He is now