Discussion: Jeff Merkley Plans To Vote For Legal Pot Ballot Measure In Oregon

Free from obstruction posed by arcane authorities, progress like you speak of unfolds naturally, and our society blossoms because of it.

Unfortunately, when you also have arcane commodities like coal and oil, etc, the status quo that depends on them for money and thereby power, will desperately defend itself against progress that demands that their product should diminish in favor of something infinitely better. This includes the oldstream media versus the web.

Progress flows like water, to and from the source, unless someone builds a dam to stop its flow.

We are in the midst of one of the worst dam times in history.

Nylon is ok as a Ukulele string, or parachute fabric, but Hemp is a far more versatile fiber, and it’s got SOUL, baby!

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but we have to consider whether that nylon itself, or even more pernicious the throw-away by products we create synthesizing it, causes cancer and other ailments.

It isn’t just a matter of the substance, but what it took to get it to the point it can be used for the purpose intended.

I have claimed for many years that the carbon based industries, Coal, Oil, Gas, are entirely about the profit and the power of the base that controls it. We’ve had alternatives in several forms for many decades. They do not WANT the decentralization of power generation or the idea of power coming from many asymetrical forms. The US Navy recently figured out how to make fuel for internal combustion engines out of sea water, at a cost of about $6 a gallon, which is what gas costs consumers in many parts of the world. And Lockheed Martin just announced a breakthrough in Fusion technology that completely consumes the fuel, from an engine that can sit on the back of a pickup truck.

But until the Oligarchy figures out how they can control 14 different forms of power generation–they will never ever let us off the hook for Coal, Oil, and Gas. They got us addicted to it. It’s the source of their wealth and power, and they will never let it go.

Have you seen the regulations in Colorado? Clearly, they anticipated the problems you speak of and attempt to address them in the new regulations.

I doubt they’ll rise too much; he was already pretty much a lock. Just mailed my ballot in today; I’m sure he’ll be glad to know I voted for him and the ballot measure…

This is what happened to Tesla… they couldn’t control him. Especially when he started talking about ā€œfreeā€ electricity, then the greed-club took him out.

Imagine if we had been able to develop our economy all these years with free or nearly free energy? If that chunk of the billionaire’s booty had been denied them, there would have been a much bigger middle class in this nation, with millions more entrepreneurs making their own way instead of working for one of those billionaires.

If energy was socialized, and produced as efficiently and safely as possible rather than for-profit, ā€œcommon capitalismā€ would blossom.

But the monopolists determined a century or more ago that wasn’t going to happen, rather than allowing our entire society to grow as they do, they were going to own and control it, and they proceeded to build an economic dam that diverted all that benefit into their own personal fiscal lakes, instead of letting it flow to the whole culture.

Some socialism encourages free enterprise that would eventually become a much bigger economic engine than the privatized industry itself was for the monopolists.

But, then, they would only be worth a few hundred million, and we know these days, even that is not enough to slake their desperate greed. Which is why I call them ā€œstruggling billionaires.ā€

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I wish a few others would take this tack… Grimes would do well by promoting it in Kentucky, and Braley in Iowa.

But they are all still answering to the entrenched management dinosaurs in the political game, and those people are stuck in the 1980’s.

See, this is the problem I have with Capitalism. Capitalism is a fabulous system when it’s used on a small scale. Farmer’s markets and craftsmen. Bakers, and Butchers, and Blacksmiths. But, with the rise of the Industrial Revolution, Capitalism inevitably turns into a Monster, devouring the public interest in favor of the accumulation of a never ending pile of capital for a few recipients. And then, like any addiction, the commitment to ever more, more, more becomes the goal in it’s own right. The notion that someone in the business of making rope is providing a needed commodity, while providing a living for the people involved in the process, has been utterly lost. The accumulation of capital is a religious zeal with no pay-off. All roads lead to the grave. What individual, or brothers, for that matter, can spend 100 billion in their lifetime? Especially if they are very old men–and destroy the environment in the process. I can’t be the only one who can say the Emperor’s new Capitalism Clothes are an illusion.

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Ponder the tax revenue implications of California legalizing recreational pot… Colorado it one eighth the size, in population (thereabouts), and it is raking in millions for education that they never anticipated, except in their wildest estimates.

Now multiply that tenfold, because pot use is much more culturally diverse there as it is elsewhere, and you have what most of us call a ā€œno brainer.ā€

The most hypocritical part of all this is that IT IS ALREADY BOUGHT, SOLD AND TRADED BY THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND THOUSANDS OF POUNDS EVERY DAY!!!

It is just stupid that we have taken this long to figure it out.

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Tax revenues from marijuana may be substantial and beneficial at the local and state level. There are also great possibilities from seed and fiber production. Seed nutritional value is similar to flax seed, but better. The fibers are not course materials for hemp rope, but are among the finest natural fibers for clothing and accessories. This will be an important new crop in Oregon, well beyond the recreational attraction.

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I feel the same way about garlic. I once was driving in the mountains around Napa Valley. I was stuck behind a garlic truck. It stank. A few times garlic would fly off the truck and smash into my windshield, making a stinky mess. After passing it, I promptly got stuck behind another garlic truck.

We should work to get MJ legalization or at least decriminalization on the ballot in as many states as possible next mid terms. Should increase turn out.

I continue to be proud of my Jr. Senator, and also take pride in having helped get him elected to the Senate.

I’ve taken to now calling Vancouver Vansterdam instead of Vantucky.

Most of it is grown in Southern Oregon where it is estimated that pot accounts or nearly a quarter of the economy.

Bringing it full circle, Jobs also attended Reed Collaege here in Portland (studied art and calligraphy).

Ever had anyone armed climbing through your backyard, next to your kids bedroom, armed to steal your neighbors garlic? I’m not being facetious, this happened to a neighbor of mine. Like I said, I’m for legalization, but the issues are real.

Legality is the final destination. Pot is here, has been here and is not leaving. What do the anti pot prudes think that they are fighting anyways?
They either don’t really know why they are afraid of, are lying through their gums or are dumb.
Prohibition doesn’t work and didn’t while the supposed prohibiting was happening. People gonna get their fix. A 100% society of stone cold sober constituents is not reality nor a goal, that would suck and life would wither.

The USA’s problems are much bigger than marijuana or whiskey, simple teabags are wrecking the nation. Fixing that is priority and job 1.

Thanks, Jeff!