Discussion: 'It's Bob's Call': Barr Says He's Not Blocking Mueller Testimony

[noonm]

@lastroth

Seems Barr has a problem with showing his work product and procedures.

FIFY

[lastroth]

@steviedee111

It’s Barr’s call until Trump makes it his call.

Would it really be a call or would tweet work just as well?

[khyber900]

Issue the subpoena. Mueller will have to obey it unless the DOJ files something in court. Even then, he can ignore what DOJ does.

[steviedee111]

@cervantes

She’d tear out Barr’s spleen and eat it raw on live television if the need arose.

I imagine Bob can take care of himself:

[lcbo]

Getting a little tired of the well deserved criticism he has been getting I see.

That’s what you get when you forget your actual job and act as the president’s advocate Bill.

[cervantes]

@steviedee111

I imagine Bob can take care of himself

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[becca656]

I understand Mueller is very close to retirement age. If that’s so, I’d love to see him wait his testimony until after his pension is secured. Look what happened to Comey. I don’t want to see that again.

[srfromgr]

@steviedee111

So what Mueller tells the House we may never know in full.

True…but my guess is that Mueller knows those rules at DoJ probably better than just about anyone else there, including Barr. Barr has created false justifications and made up rationale for what can and can’t be divulged not based on any actual guidelines, but on extra-judicial and extra-legal guidance imposed by him and purely to protect trump and his criminal cabal. Mueller will most likely know the difference between those things. If he withholds information because Barr orders him to do so out of a commitment to protect trump’s weak ass, than I think Mueller as a private citizen, and no longer an employee of the executive branch, will be able to share his opinion without fear of retribution by some newly concocted guideline preventing him from doing so under Barr’s authority.

Remember, tRump is the guy that took away Andrew McCabe’s full pension and fired him one day before his retirement after more than 21 years with the FBI so retribution by this WH is not an uncommon thing when you still work under these assholes.

[steviedee111]

@cervantes

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That Trump’s supposedly veteran supporting, hyper-patriotic, military loving base condones Trump’s disparagement of Meuller, at all, speaks to their moral depravity and situational ethics.

[steviedee111]

@srfromgr

True…but my guess is that Mueller knows those rules at DoJ probably better than just about anyone else there, including Barr.

My main point is we want Mueller to testify, both to counter Trump’s attempts at soft peddling and diminishing the importance of his investigation (or even negating it almost entirely), AND to satisfy our own need for affirmation, from the horse’s mouth, that Trump is guilty of multiple crimes. If the most damaging parts of his testimony is behind closed doors, and never released to the public, we’ll be denied the affirmation we seek. Only if the House makes moves based on Mueller’s testimony will we gain some measure of assurance Mueller gutted Trump and left his entrails on the floor.

Unfortunately Nadler will act on the testimony next week. Or July. Or maybe in 2020.

[redemptionsong]

Where is Mueller? Why hasn’t he commented publicly about his willingness to testify? I understand that he’s a supposed “consummate professional”, but he has a responsibility to address whether he’s willing to testify or if he’s being constrained.

At some point Bob Mueller needs to step up.

Mueller…? Mueller…? Mueller…?

[virginiavoter]

@cervantes

The lady in question may have been a debutante but she is also a tough cookie. She’d tear out Barr’s spleen and eat it raw on live television if the need arose.

Kamala Harris and Mazie Hirono already did that, but I wouldn’t mind seeing a replay.

[faydout]

That’s anyone with a high clearance, and it’s part (er, at least it was) of our yearly security training. If he leaves DoJ, he’ll get read out of the programs that his position required access to, and part of that read out involves the blurb about not divulging any classified, or information about ongoing investigations under penalty of up to 75 years in prison (if I’m recalling my read out correctly).

[cervantes]

@steviedee111

That Trump’s supposedly veteran supporting, hyper-patriotic, military loving base condones Trump’s disparagement of Meuller, at all, speaks to their moral depravity and situational ethics.

Yes – but with such an argument, caution and nuance are advised!

After all, there was nothing admirable about the American invasion and destruction of Vietnam.

[faydout]

Barr Says He’s Not Blocking Mueller Testimony

So, Barr is definitely blocking Mueller’s testimony.

[steviedee111]

@faydout

If he leaves DoJ, he’ll get read out of the programs that his position required access to

Many people seem to think once he retires the gloves are off and he can waltz into a House hearing and regurgitate everything he knows and everything he found out, about everyone and everything, and have it all open to scrutiny by the public. Simply by virtue of being a private citizen. I see or hear no one in a position of authority, Nadler, Schiff, Cummings et al, disabusing the public of this misconception. Dems need to temper expectations in my opinion.

[srfromgr]

I want almost everything to be done in public. Period. With all witnesses. Enough of this behind closed doors bullshit. The Democratic House and Democratic Senators haven’t even received one lick of counter-intelligence information that’s been requested or given any information with regards to their oversight since the beginning of this shitshow. If that has to be behind closed doors…fine. But the rest should be in public…and now.

And Junior should be ordered to come in public before the House Judiciary by subpoena no matter what was worked out between Republican Senators manipulating the newest fiasco over his limited testimony. The Senate does not determine what the House can and should do as part of their oversight responsibilities.

[steviedee111]

@cervantes

After all, there was nothing admirable about the American invasion and destruction of Vietnam.

Of course not. That’s the macro view. But Mueller did what was asked of him, heroically, suffered wounds, and went back for more. Question anyone’s wisdom of participating in the war. But I hazard some respect is due those that stood tall in a hail of bullets and had the backs of their fellow soldiers, regardless the politics of the war. Trump cannot muster that respect.

[steviedee111]

@srfromgr

And Junior should be ordered to come in public before the House Judiciary by subpoena no matter what was worked out between Republican Senators manipulating the newest fiasco over his limited testimony. The Senate does not determine what the House can and should do as part of their oversight responsibilities.

Nadler has requiring Junior’s testimony under consideration. There’s a meeting scheduled next week to discuss putting it on the agenda the following week, for preliminary exploration of a committee vote in July, but not before consulting with Nancy Pelosi, and the date for that is being coordinated with the Environmental Studies and Prayer Group. One day. In the future. Sometime.

[cervantes]

@steviedee111

But Mueller did what was asked of him

Not exactly. He volunteered.

(As did some others.)

 

@steviedee111

But I hazard some respect is due those that stood tall in a hail of bullets and had the backs of their fellow soldiers, regardless the politics of the war. Trump cannot muster that respect.

Needless to say.