Discussion: Is This The Reason A Missouri Lawmaker Filed A Bill To Make Legislators Lawyers?

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Never, ever underestimate the pettiness of a small-time elected official.

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What a cunning stunt.

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Only if there was a licensing requirement to be a Politician. We’d lose one of our major political parties entirely.

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The true reason is quite obvious to anyone who knows anything about these Teabagger Republicans: he wanted to ratfuck the people of Missouri.

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Good! Funny! And you are 100% correct!

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In other words, it was even more personal, petty and puerile than original thought.

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That was a confusing, who dunnit, sort of article.
Was there a good guy?

Is this whole thing as petty and ridiculous as it seems? Isn’t there a law against doing private business on your government job’s time?

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So
childish tantrum, then?

“YOU THINK YOU CAN DO MY JOB, MR. FANCYPANTS LAWYER? WELL TAKE THIS!!!”

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What a stunning cunt?

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There was an ancient Greek leader named Zaleucus who famously required that if you proposed a new law before the citizen’s council you had to do it with a rope around your neck so you could be immediately strangled if the law were rejected. Just sayin’.

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It’s Missouri so expect him to be reelected.

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I think Ross may be doing payback that isn’t all so bad. As a Former city planner and member of the American Institute of Certified Planners I have witnessed how attorneys have legislated that only they can represent before Plan Commissions and Zone Boards. Their expertise is not municipal or land planning; it is law but they have defined their role into the law.

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Personal feud via legislation. hahahahahahahahaha of course because why not?

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Well, yes, attorneys do tend to do that. :slight_smile:

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Now that is what you call The Good Old Days. Hmm. Or maybe I should should I say Antiquis temporibus? Or ÎżÎč παλÎčές Îșαλές ΌέρΔς?

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Maybe you should say “O tempora! O mores!”

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Uhhhhh
huh.

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IMO the rats in that state have already set up domestic arrangements with the people, and this is a predictable consequence.

Anyone who’s spent any length of time living and working in a state that’s gone red or been red for a time is entirely familiar with the dynamics that bring about these ridiculous situations. For over 8 years now, Teapsters, Freedumbers, Ronulans & whiite nationalists have been entering red state R electoral contests largely motivated to secure their own quarter-cooked belief in ‘solutions’ to banal turf wars that seem to hve died out years or decades ago.

Take this real property survey mapping requirement. What went on for decades and longer whenever an attorney specializing in real estate acquisitions, sales and transfers had what looked like it would go ahead eventually as a confirmed legally enforceable land transfer, they’d contact their favored land surveyors and either give out preferred sweetheart deal or set up a bidding war over the price a state-RE board certified survey map, which often included the cost if not the actual reality of a brand new full blown survey with instruments and trained technicians and the full meal deal.

But after 150 years plus of that sort of thing, a state like Missouri been pretty much all showed, in survey terms. So what r.e. attorneys and escrow agents have done for years is rather than divvy up survey graft, they’ve been advertising cheaper fixed survey costs to attract client customers - most of whom have already learned about this historical scam from their parents or their own earlier property purchases or, increasingly, online in property owner support groups blogs.

So for the past generation, and increasingly, it’s actually not been necessary to secure a full-blown survey to satisfy escrow: just search out the existing maps, from the courthouse and othe land registers, including that for almost 20 years folks have been uploading their survey maps on line FOR SOUND REASONS, and pretty soon r.e. attorney’s have found it far cheaper, quicker and less hassle to produce most if not all survey confirmation for escrow release purposes in house - increasingly putting land surveyors out of work.

So, tit for tat, certain tea-infused hubris-infested board certified licensed and surveyors, came to think - CORRECTLY - that most of what r.e. attorneys do could be done by an entry level clerk-typist with online search skills and middle school competence with a basic graphics software program, and so they’ve been angling to TAKE OVER that end of the r.e. bidnitz.

But I don’t agree there’s any big assault on the legal rights of Missouri citizens going on here. There’s lots of overreach and potential for unintended consequences, but the room to hurt property transfer insurance is, so far at least, negligible. The OTT part that this tea-infused surveyor “law maker” stuck in was, IMO, aimed to work partly as threat to the r.e. legal beagle lobby and some crude form of object lesson education to the public in general, but I’m not sure it should be seen for how it self-advertises.

That said, I’d never put any limits on how low a land agent is capable of going and how crazy ignorant and reckless they are.

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I agree with this, but in large part they’ve been able to get away with it because related groups like your own and legal surveyors and escrow transfer agents keep overreaching into legal functions and failing to get that we’re all increasingly online in an effort to preserve and protect dead and dying functions.

In a time of rapid sweeping technological change, generalist who have the advantge of being higher level authority figures plugged deeper into the establishment tend to kick the crap out of trade Luddites.