Clarification= WE ARE IDIOTS HERE IN THE INDIANA LEGISLATURE
Done and done
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Shorter GOP Klowns: We didnāt say that everybody Had to discriiminate, we just said everybody COULD discriminate! About ANYTHING! So why is everybody so upset?
So what about hand holding on the way to your table?
This isnāt about gross PDAās. This is about bigots thinking that their discomfort entitles them to make it difficult for other people to conduct their ordinary lives.
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When the Plutocrats of the Republican Party sold their souls to the Dominionist in their mad desire to win at all cost they knew it was a Faustian Bargain.
And they did not care. The strategy worked so well 10 years ago in '04. What could go wrong?
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If you think holding hands is lewd, thatās funny.
I am well aware of that. Itās clearly designed for discrimination.
My point is not to exploit criticism where it does not apply. Iāve seen some gay couples go out of their way to draw attention to themselves by acting lewd, and when asked to stop they claim they are being discriminated against, when in fact a hetero couple would be tossed for the same thing. That needs to be part of any amendment to this Law. Yes, if a gay couple walks in and holds hands and is asked to leave, lawsuit time. If a gay couple are rubbing each others asses in a restaurant and are asked to leave, just leave, donāt try to get a payday out of it. The whole Republican ārapā (not agenda, ārapā) on this is that they donāt want frivolous lawsuits. Get that out of the way and they have NO leg to stand on. Much better strategy from a legislative perspective.
Got another one Eustace!
WTF1: itās not a conservative, just an incredibly realistic simulation!
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No, heās from that series of childrenās books about the little monkey, Curious Eli.
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Throughout the press conference, both lawmakers said repeatedly the legislation does not directly discriminate against anyone
True, it merely allows anybody in Indiana to discriminateā¦
āThe fact is that it doesnāt do that, it doesnāt discriminate and anyone on either side of this issue suggesting otherwise is just plain flat wrong,ā Long said.
ā¦against anybody else in Indianaā¦
ā¦using the same reasoning once used to justify slavery, segregation, prohibitions against mixed-race couples, and a host of other sick practices.
WALLACING
To try to cast the blame for your own bigoted views on āoutside agitatorsā instead of admitting you have them. Derived from George Wallace who made similar statements in the civil rights era.
Gov Pence is wallacing on the religious liberty bill
If you want to read the actual law you can find it here: https://iga.in.gov/legislative/2015/bills/senate/101#
I will be curious to see the language of the āclarificationā amendment. Perhaps they will title it ālipstick for the pigā?
This is a bad law. It is vague to the point of being ridiculous. It basically allows a citizen to use the āreligious freedomā defense against any rule, regulation or law handed down by any state entity if in the opinion of the citizen the citizen believes the edict to be contrary to the citizenās āreligiousā beliefs. Further, it allows the citizen to sue the government body for relief to get his way and to ask for damages, court costs AND attorneyās fees.
Barblzz,
New here? A ghost is a phantom or spectre, i.e., it is not what it seems.
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Itās not a Billā¦ itās a law. And it needs to be repealed. Repealing it would do nothing to prevent business owners from enforcing decorum equally ā but thatās mere a distraction. This is simply the Republicans trying to put a burden on gays.
To clarify, this is Sharia law which is also something that the fundies like to practice but not be called out on.
I say, first things first, clarify that all of these homophobes arenāt closeted pricks that are self-hating, self-loathing hypocrites.
Hook them up to some wires and test their pulse when showed pictures of little boys and naked men. These lawmakers are far too obsessed with these sexual things not to be secretly interested. The pretense of being so against is one of the first major giveaways.
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I hesitate to bring this up because of its hideous nature, but didnāt Hitler used his religious liberty as justification for the Holocaust?
It damned for sure isnāt about Gays supposedly rubbing each others butts in public, WTF.
How off of the subject can a guy go to create an argument?
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Whoops, I edited it.
I agree with you. Iām just saying that the Amendment to this Law should include such language. Then when asked why they made the Law in the first place and how it applies, they wonāt have an answer. Iād love to see that, Republicans pass Law that they canāt explain the meaning of. Then I want a Jewish deli to jokingly put up a sign that says āno uncircumcised males allowedā.
The language of the Amendment is key. If it is crafted as it should be, the law becomes a public embarrassment because it has no meaning. Itās like having a special law that outlaws killing with knives, apparently because normal murder laws donāt cover thatā¦
The whole BS story the Republicans are pushing is the frivolous lawsuit thing. THAT is what you attack, what they think is their strong point. Defuse that, and they are left with their pants down.
The bill itself doesnāt directly discriminate against anyone. But no one ever claimed it did.What it does is give a government license to private discrimination. Itās as if states in the deep south had officially passed laws saying that the government shouldnāt enforce homicide statutes when a homicide was based on deeply held religious convictions about race. Majestic equality.
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I know that before I buy anything in Indiana, I am going to demand some clarification of my own.
I travelled in the South in the late 50s, when I was a white kid with a school group. I saw Jim Crow in action, and I will never, ever knowingly set foot on the premises of any place whose owners or employees reserve the right to humiliate a fellow citizen.
And - for those too young to know - my mother told me that when she grew up in Westchester, NY, it was not uncommon to see private businesses with signs that read, āNo Jews allowed.ā Is that where we are headed? Some of the same folks who are freaked about gays have centruires-old record of being made very āuncomfortableā about Jews in the same country, and expelled them all in the name of religious freedom (the Jews were of course deniers of the only religion).
So how about it, Indiana? Is it ok to decline to serve folks who think YOUR religion is a superstition? Does that make yāall uncomfortable? Is Indiana safe for Hindus?
Are you OK? Is there someone we should call or notify?
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The one thing we can all agree on is Republicans were shocked this law generated all this heat. They shouldnāt have been, last year Jan Brewer had to veto a similar law. Business leaders warned the Indiana governor and legislature about how the public might react. They knew enough to keep reporters away from the signing ceremony. Some have called this an example of epistemic closureāthat is their heads were so far up their collective a** they didnāt even hear what they were being told.
It remains to be seen if they can understand the nature of their problem sufficiently to clean up the mess they have created. Blaming their problem on a small tribe of people isnāt going to get it done.
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