Discussion: Illinois Gov. Signs Measure To Gradually Hike Minimum Wage To $15 An Hour

Have to wait 5 years to get the wage , as to when the value of the money will be the same as at this moment .

Well I’m fairly lean and have been about the same weight since college. My wife is also lean. A lot I’d say due to the fact that we exercise on a regular basis, but I think genetics is a big help. Our parents are and were not as lean as us but they don’t and didn’t exercise as much. But they are and were much leaner than most of the folks in that picture.

We are both about 25 lbs too heavy. It just snowed 7 inches, and that makes walking dicey. We do exercise 3x-4x weekly, but probably need to pick it up.

Hang in there. A couple guys I work with use rowers and they are a couple of the fittest look folks at work. One is really lean the other I think lifts some too as he’s somewhat muscular. Hey do what you can!

You really haven’t been paying attention, have you? We have multiple states and localities where similar ordinances have been passed. And multiple locations now operating at $15 an hour. The calamities you are forecasting have not materialized anywhere.

Thank you for confirming that, as usual, you have nothing to offer but blind prejudice and that you really have no idea what you’re talking about.

Well, that is simply bullshit. The cases that are out there (Seattle is the most mature) are in HIGH-PRICED HIGH-COL cities. Not in Downstate IL, where small towns have a MUCH LOWER cost of living.

You are basically too stupid to understand actual fine distinctions, but I’ve known that for some time.

And actually Seattle is not a great example:

https://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/news/2018/08/13/jll-seattle-suburban-job-growth-eastside-commutes.html

Another thing you $15/hour morons are ignoring is that this is going to have a huge impact on the military. You don’t make anywhere near $15/hour in the military. Why join the Marines if you can make $15/hour flipping burgers? Of course, touchpad ordering and automatic burger flippers are coming.

$15/hour is the magic solution which appeals to people like you Kumquat. Lazy thinkers who ā€œthinkā€ by virtue-signalling. Pathetic, really.

Chicago already has a $12 minimum wage.

Sorry, but it’s not, no matter how much you stamp your feet and hold your breath until you turn blue. You simply have no idea what you’re talking about. And yes, Seattle, is one example and the data are quite clear about the impact on jobs, i.e., nothing you are predicting has come true.

And other entire states have raised their minimum wages and people like you predicted doom and gloom at that time and that, too, did not come true. In short, you got nothing. (Free clue, by the way: the study you cited doesn’t say what you think it does, since it demonstrates absolutely nothing about minimum wage. It’s unsurprising that you have not done your homework on this and that you are genuinely ignorant of the impact of the minimum wage on Seattle.)

As to the impact on the military, that’s easily handled by … wait for it … raising the salary there. Not to mention that you’re ignoring the other benefits that come with being in the military. This, too, has happened in the past and without the doom and gloom you’re predicting.

So, as usual, you are demonstrating that you have absolutely no actual data to back up anything you’re writing. It’s just the usual worthless drivel from a ā€œlazy thinker who ā€˜thinks’ by mindless prejudice.ā€ Pathetic, really,

Seriously, don’t you ever get tired of being wrong? Has it really escaped your notice that your track record here is absolutely dreadful? That almost nothing you predict ever comes true? That you know nothing at all about the topics you expound on? Tell us again about that horrible ā€œinvasionā€ on our southern border, won’t you? Or tell us how the 14th Amendment doesn’t say what it clearly says and what its creators clearly indicated in the Congressional debates at the time. And on and on and on and on…

I have a job and it pays better than that. That’s not my point. And experience in other areas of the country where the minimum wage was raised, economies and restaurants did better. See the experience of restaurant owners in Seattle and San Francisco.

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A paid troll, I think.

Possible but I rather doubt it, given his history here. In the end, I don’t think it really matters. If someone is posting stupid shit because they’re a paid troll, or if they’re posting stupid shit because they’re a sociopath looking for an outraged response, or if they’re posting stupid shit because they’re stupid, at the end of the day, it’s all stupid shit.

This particular version is a racist bigot and, as we’ve seen on this thread, someone with libertarianish views. And definitely not someone worth taking seriously. I mean, ā€œThe problem with these fast food jobs is that they destroy the restaurant economy,ā€ what can you say to a such a profoundly ignorant statement like that?

Since I live in Seattle, I’ve been following events here fairly closely, which is why I know he’s genuinely ignorant. There were early articles and studies that purported to show that Seattle jobs and restaurants were struggling after the passage of the minimum wage bill. If he knew what he was talking about, if he’d done even a 10-minute web search, he’d have cited them. Of course, there were fundamental flaws in those early studies and/or in the interpretation of those studies, but then, he wouldn’t know that.

So the fact that he can’t even do the bare minimum tells me all I need to know about his purpose here and whether it’s worth taking him seriously. He’s a mindless true believer regurgitating talking points he got from some other website somewhere. And, as such, he can either be ignored or mocked, depending on the mood and the time of the respondents.

The point is that this may work in some places. It will not work in Thompsonville, in Cairo, in Alton, in the hundreds of tiny towns scattered outside of Chicago. This will be a bar to expansion of businesses in IL, which is already reeling from the impacts of high property taxes, crappy business climate, and a totally idiotic government.

Now if only you had some actual data to support your drivel, we might be able to have a serious discussion. You don’t. And, as a result, we can’t.