Discussion: 'I Have No Idea': Mulvaney Juggles Trump's Wild Border Wall Claims

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Dead man talking…

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Crooked leading the crooked. He needs to be behind bars when all this shit is over.

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“Lies, and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them,” updated 2019 version.

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So, Mulvaney says that Trump is so willing to compromise that he will take a fence in place of a wall. That is a compromise? (Instead of 100% of what I demanded, I will accept 98% of what I demanded, and still make no concession to you or your interests in return.) Ransom note: We were going to ask 10 million to return your child, but will compromise and take 9.5 million as long as you don’t call the cops on us. Thanks.

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“I could just as easily say that it’s the Democrats’ refusal to give
the necessary money for border security that is the cause of the
shutdown,” he said.
“We’re not interested in laying any blame,” he quickly added, though Trump and White House staff have eagerly sought to blame Democrats for the shutdown.
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You cannot have it both ways, Mulvaney
And btw…it was trump’s change of mind that started all this bullshit. He got told by his handlers (Hannity, Limbaugh et al) that if he didn’t get the wall his base would dissolve. So he panicked. And now he’s stuck in a corner. And the results of his folly are there for all to see.
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You, Mick, are forgetting that bill sailed thru both chambers to fund the government. Everyone was on board and then trump changed his mind.

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They shouldn’t be able to, but they have been getting away with exactly that at least since Reagan. It needs to stop if we are ever going to have reasonable political discourse again, but I don’t see either happening in my lifetime.

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The problem here is you can’t negotiate with a mad man.

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Mulvaney said Fuck was talking about increased tax revenue collected by the government as a result of increased trade — though that would mean American taxpayers would pay for the wall, not Mexico.

That fact that they are still saying this means people like Tapper are not embarrassing them enough.

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There was a football team that was so horrible that fans took to wearing paper bags over their heads so no one would know who they were.
When the Trump Tragedy comes to an end,all Republicans who have allowed this POS to remain President should be made to wear “Depends” over their heads.
Preferably soiled. :laughing:

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Lord Krug: “Give me what I want and I’ll consider it.”

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Uh-oh—he’s in the Spice Zone. He can’t do word salad like KAC, and he can’t just blatantly lie like Sanders. So he just backs away from every question like it were a bear on the hiking path. You can’t think about your reputation and you can’t get rattled by the difficulty of defending positions that are literally indefensible. You have to find a way forward, Mick. You either a) knew this going in or b) are stupid. Simple question to finish up: Which is it?

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Mick Mulvaney on whether he supports President Trump using his emergency powers to fund the border wall: “I’m actually heavily involved with it and have been working with all the Cabinet secretaries to try and find money that we can legally use to defend the southern border”

Uh, folks? Racism is not justification to build a border wall. Racism is not a reason to declare a national emergency. Racism does not magically create an “invasion” along our southern border. Your racism has become a threat to the stability of this nation.

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                Mulvaney Juggles

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Slightly of Topic, but nevertheless very grifty:

Newly released emails about the three Trump associates who secretly steered the Department of Veterans Affairs show how deeply the trio was involved in some of the agency’s most consequential matters, most notably a multibillion-dollar effort to overhaul electronic health records for millions of veterans.

Marvel Entertainment chairman Ike Perlmutter, West Palm Beach physician Bruce Moskowitz and lawyer Marc Sherman — part of the president’s circle at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida — reviewed a confidential draft of a $10 billion government contract for the electronic-records project, even though they lack any relevant expertise.

In preparing the contract, the agency consulted more than 40 outside experts, such as hospital executives, according to the records, which were released under the Freedom of Information Act. The Mar-a-Lago trio were listed among those experts. Perlmutter, a comic book tycoon, appears on the list between representatives from the University of Washington Medical Center, Intermountain Healthcare and Johns Hopkins University.

But none of the three men has served in the U.S. military or elsewhere in government, and none of them has expertise in health information technology or federal contracting.

Let’s impeach him anyway! So we can all have tea. With scones and Devonshire cream. Oh, and strawberry jam.

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Declaring a “national emergency” would be entirely unnecessary for any President who actually knew how to negotiate and complete a deal. So it’s entirely fitting that Trump has to resort to a “break glass” type of measure. But Republicans should be aware, once you lower the threshold for this and for a blatantly political reason, there’s no reason a future Democratic President couldn’t do the same.

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Are they capable of feeling embarrassment?

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The bullsheet never stops.

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