Discussion: How Trump's Obamacare Sabotage Sets Him Up For His Own Political Misery

I’d like to get a shirt or bumper sticker that simply says, “Tillerson is right”.

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Take-away for the American people: Trump killed health insurance except for company insurance. Next, Trump will begin to kill Medicare. And then Social Security. But, even though people will no longer get insurance, medical care or social security, taxes will go up for working people. This is the Trump plan, and Democrats need to speak simply and clearly about it.

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I am reading a lot of ‘what a moron’ comments, but he’s gotten far in life being one. (Sometimes I wish I were so stupid.) this was always going to be what he did, because in his win-lose view of the world, there can be only one winner: himself. The main issue now is whether there is a counterpuncher who will stand in the ring with him…so far he has not met his match. By the way, as a side note: kudos to Chuck Schumer - I had my doubts about him, but he has successfully herded 48 cats since taking over as minority leader. Has any Democrat been able to do this, previously? I think he might have the stamina to match - what he needs is a few more senators.

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Cerner had a chance to move it’s headquarters to Overland Park but elected to remain in Kansas City, Missouri. If Sprint moves out that will leave Garmin in Overland Park. Even Kansas City, Kansas is doing better than Johnson County when it comes to attracting business. It seems business people want nice stuff. Letting your city, county or state slide into dumpster status to save a few tax bucks for business people is really short sighted. Actually it is worse than short sighted, it is stupid and stupid is almost synonymous with Republican. You can never expect those folks to do the right thing for the people they represent or for their own collective future–but they sure do own media machines and aren’t afraid to use them.

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Well, he is a character…
So, that’s one.
Then there’s Pence…
that’s two.

How’s my counting so far?

…or is he talking about number of letters and numbers in his twitter messages?

Genius negotiator who states what he thinks his leverage/advantage is.

Of course, he always forgets what he just said and so every moment is new and fresh…to be crapped on again and again. Sort of a perpetual Groundhog Day of bullsh*t. He speweth mightily and constantly. His incontinence is continual.

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Isn’t he due for a major stroke or heart attack? Maybe one immediately followed by the other? Maybe just a complete loss of bowel and bladder control in public first? A fit of sharts?

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The difference between comic strips and comic books is the length of the story line, so comic strips is shortest contain narrative.

So, it’s all about him here too. Obama shepherded the law through the legislative process, not a series of EOs. He hates Obama and is determined to destroy everything he did. The insurance companies didn’t support Trump, so it’s time to punish their customers.

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Josh,

I’m surprised at you. Photoshopped images splashed across the front page? Ugh. I’ve always looked to TPM as a place for news, not a tabloid. This is beneath you and your staff.

Scott L.

I am a speech-language pathologist in an elementary school. I work with several language-disordered 10-year olds whose language skills, in both content, form, and use, easily exceed 45’s.

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The R’s bashed the D’s with “Repeal and replace” for years. Now I say they bash back with “You break it, you own it!”. Dems need to match the Rep’s catchy tropes because that’s what sinks into the uneducated public. (Or even, “You BROKE it; you own it!”)

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Political misery is not nearly enough misery for trump. He needs political, personal, financial and health misery writ large. Like penniless living under a bridge in the rain misery. Incurable and very exceedingly painful and advanced bone cancer not ameliorated by any pain medication type misery (let alone no health insurance misery after being made penniless by a court judgement type misery). Wife leaving him misery. No ego soothing praise misery.

Jeepers, I’m on a roll here.

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I don’t think the troops we have in SK are near enough to launch a war against NK, which you also suggest. I don’t think we would have SK’s help. SK will focus on defensive measures to protect their people and to continue diplomacy with Kim. I don’t think Kim wants war. Take the US out of the equation and it seems to me that the rest of the world would do a deal with him and look for more economic, diplomatic and cultural openings to moderate the regime from within. Kim might be ok with that. His biggest concern is the US obsession with regime change. With the US looking weak and isolated, other countries like China would have a pretty good chance of rallying the int’l community against war.

But Trump and the hardliners are not without cards either. They would fall back on Bush’s axis of evil to argue that Kim’s regime is an abomination to humanity and must be replaced. He’d have the support of the GOP and GOP leaning Indies for such an argument.

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Hey, the evangelicals could find out what a good Christian Trump is if God sent Satan down to give Trump the Job treatment. I’m sure the outcome would be the same and wouldn’t show them all to be a bunch of hypocrites.

it’s been corrected, although it looks like there was an interim error.

I feel for the good citizens of Maine, at least LePage is term limited.

I know you are snarking, but, I’ll play the straight man for the moment and say that [Trumpp doesn’t understand the effects of what he is proposing][1].

Nobody who has credibility with Trumpp has told him that the move will do anything but raise premiums and hurt the insurance companies (who didn’t jump on board the GOP repeal train). Higher premiums, he believes, threatens to kill ACA and will force Dems to negotiate with him from a position of not just weakness, but desperation (which is when Trumpp likes to make deals).

Now, if the improvements should become reality, your snarky scenario would then take effect.
[1]: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/10/trump-keeps-getting-mad-when-he-learns-what-his-policies-do.html

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Pottery Barn* rule

*Thomas Friedman shoved Pottery Barn into the rule, even though they don’t have a “you break it, you own it” policy.

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I fear this will be all too true in too many cases.

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