Discussion: How Trump's New Deep State Conspiracy Theory Emerged From The Fever Swamps

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And we watch from the bleachers as Fat Nixon descends into paranoia and madness.
Meanwhile in congress a lot of fiddling going on doing Nero one turn better.
Not just Rome burning , but the whole empire

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We already have his confession:

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If there is only one Trump Toady dethroned in the 2018 elections… PLEASE let it be Nunes

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When this is over, we will need to build more jails to lock them all up.

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See! We’ll get our infrastructure week after all!

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Few are closer to unanimous than defendants who think they were unfairly targeted.

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I am suffering from post Trumpatic stress disorder and the POS is still here!

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I guess it’s the naive nature of my Winnie the Pooh like political junkie of very little brain tat leads me to the thought, but here it is. How is it possible that a third of the country can look at this theory of the tRump campaign having an “informant” as a scandal while simultaneously dismissing the fact that there are already multiple members of the campaign itself who have flipped and are cooperating with the investigation? This is just head desk material for me, I just can’t get my head around it. “Okay sure officer, there may be a dead body hanging out of the trunk of my car, but the guy who called the cops was off duty!! QED, there’s no crime except for the phone call to report the dead body everyone in the car testified to knowing about!! Gotcha copper!!!”

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Trump demands an IG probe of an FBI counter intelligence operation. He says he was being spied on.
Fast forward a few days. He’ll be tweeting and proclaiming from the stump the fact the IG is conducting an investigation proves his suspicions are correct.
He demands the investigation. The existence of the investigations becomes proof he’s on to something.

And the proles will nod and say “Yep, they’re out to get Donnie.”

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I am of two minds about Trump:
1 He really is innocent and it was the people around him that used his candidacy to further financial goals
2 Trump is a lazy thinker (or doesn’t think) and follows others who are not deep thinkers. Therefore, he doesn’t consider the consequences of his actions, like It could confirm that the conspiracy theories aren’t true and Mueller really does have a case.

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I hope the DOJ redoubles its efforts and tackles the case of Ted Cruz’s father and JFK’s murder. It’s high time we get to the bottom of that plot too.

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Devin Nunes was on the Trump transition team and is close to Michael Flynn. He’s also a moron. It’s not a stretch to think he got duped six ways from Sunday by the Russians and knows it, which would account for his treasonous behavior.

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I wish they would send him a response that said:

  1. Yes we did infiltrate
  2. No it wasn’t ordered by the O admin.
  3. Yes it was legal
  4. No, we won’t tell you what we learned yet
    5.Later, when we know enough to hang you
    P,S, Your “attorney” is an idiot.
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I pasted this one in the other day. Altemeyer’s work on authoritarianism is very good reading. Here John Dean adds in his analysis.

It took many months for Americans to stop supporting President Nixon during Watergate, and even at the end he could count on a hard knot of supporters who would believe him, as he said to [his chief of staff] H. R. Haldeman, because they wanted to. (NYT, 11/22/1974, p. 20). A few days before he resigned, 24% of a Gallup sample approved of the way Nixon was doing his job, including 38% of the Republicans polled.

Most of Donald Trump’s supporters are probably people whom social psychologists call authoritarian followers, because they are so supportive of the authorities they consider legitimate. These are the people Trump was talking about when he famously bragged that he could shoot somebody in broad daylight on Fifth Avenue and it would make no difference to his backers. They are the people who so willingly took the “loyalty pledge” at Trump rallies in the early primaries—even calling on Trump to “do the swearing” when he had skipped it.

We know enough about authoritarian supporters from research, and history, to know it will be very hard to change their minds about the leader they adore.

They are extremely ethnocentric, dividing the world sharply into people in their in-group, and automatically disliking all others. They feel politicians who promote minority rights and immigration discriminate against them. Donald Trump tells them they are right. He is their champion.
They are highly dogmatic. They get their ideas from others in the in-group, especially from their leader, not from evidence and logic. They say there is no evidence that will make them change their minds. They’re quite comfortable believing “alternate facts.”
They get great satisfaction from being part of a large movement. Being in a cohesive crowd at rallies thrills them because they silently tell one another, just by being there, that they are powerful and right. They create an echo chamber that reinforces the belief that all the good people think like they do.
They severely limit their sources of information. They get the news that they want to get. This also produces an echo chamber when the news sources they trust are copying each other and relaying Trump’s message.
They have highly compartmentalized minds. When an unpleasant truth forces its way into their awareness, they do not try to integrate the other things they believe with it. Instead they put it in a box and isolate it from the rest of their thinking, which proceeds as if the truth never existed.
Put all this together and you get an idea how hard it will be to change their minds about Donald Trump.

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New theory: McDonalds has been secretly lacing Trumps hamburgers with Deep State conformance drugs (all developed by the Clinton laboratories hidden in their subterranian complexes in each state). Trumps behavior is simply his internal ‘stable genius’ fighting the influence of those drugs.

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Guilt or innocence are of but minor concern. More concerning is the ability of those around him to use him for their own ends and enrichment. A President that can be taken advantage of by those in his inner circle, preying on his psychological weaknesses and innate stupidity, is a threat to national security.

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[quote=“fuashcroft, post:9, topic:72460”]
How is it possible that a third of the country can look at this theory of the tRump campaign having an “informant” as a scandal while simultaneously dismissing the fact that there are already multiple members of the campaign itself who have flipped and are cooperating with the investigation?
[/quote]When you have been conditioned for many years to believe and accept that the government - especially Democrats - is bad and out to get you and make your life difficult, while protecting and doing everything for blacks, browns, Muslims and others who are not like you; and you get all of your information from the right-wing confirmation bias media bubble …

I would think you more likely to believe that the feds put an informant in the Trump campaign than you are to believe that the man you voted for and are counting on to make your life better conspired with foreign governments and agents to win the election. Trump, by the way, falls into this group. At this point, I think he believes the deep state was out to get him, and that nothing he did was wrong. He has created this reality for himself, with the help of information he believes being fed to him through his favorite outlets and people. It is more comfortable than reality, and he will do all he can to make it everyone’s accepted truth.

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Question for TPM members: I was only a child when Nixon resigned, so I don’t remember with any first hand clarity what it was like during the months leading up to it. For those of you who were politically engaged at the time did Nixon attack his enemies publicly with similar ferocity? In essence I’m wondering if this is a new page out of an old playbook or an entirely new playbook.

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Donnie is working from a playbook that was written a few thousand years ago.

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