Discussion: How The GOP's SOTU Response Exposed Their Weakness

Nah, I don’t agree that Obama has not been hard hitting all along but I’ll leave that bit of concern trolling alone for now. Or maybe advise you to ask bin Laden about how late Obama was. Or the Repubs who refused to do live TV with him after he whipped their assess on TV at their own retreat in 2009.

In any case, his firmness last night is perfect timing, particularly considering GOP has the House and Senate. He let them know, in uncertain terms, that the agenda that they have laid out won’t be happening under his watch. Good for him.

As to whether the Democrats will regain any of the Houses any time soon, that’s debatable as well. As it stands, the GOP is going to have to come up with something to keep their bases energized and the other side not pissed at what they are doing. They will need to come up with actual new ideas - not just words and platitudes that have allowed them to skate by for the past few years. It’s time for them to put up or shut up - they will need to deliver on the Keystone thing they promised, repealing the ACA and they need to show they will do something about the border and other nonsense. If they don’t, their base will be pissed and the Democrats will have a lot to run against them. So I wouldn’t be so sure that GOP will keep their seats in two years.

I almost believed you were as you are trying to portray yourself here, but there were too many tells in your post. Nice try, though.

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They just have to keep the mob riled up, that’s all. When they actually govern the conservative way, they lose.
They learned that it’s best not to confuse their troops with planning when merely blowing a dog whistle gets the job done.

There used to be moderates in the GOP before the Koch Brothers did a number on them with Citizens United.

Chief Justice Roberts has many sins to atone for since he’s guided the Court into the mire but that is probably the worst. Well, maybe not. There are so many and the fiascoes just keep piling up. . I’m sure he’ll find a way to screw up the gay marriage argument, too, in such a way that nobody can figure out what the Constitution is anymore.

Conservatives should have retreated after the Iraqi invasion debacle to South America like the Nazis did after WWII. They are their own worst nightmare.

Joni did try last night just like Palin did. But she’s didn’t really have much of a chance with the the crap those Faux News speech writers wrote for her to say. Not that what she was saying before the rebuttal all on her own wouldn’t have gotten her into way more trouble. Conservative men are hiding behind their women and blaming them for all their incompetence.

The GOP needs a new agenda, new attitude and to find their lost souls. It has somehow forgotten what it is to be human. How does that happen? Racism, greed or poor potty training? Good grief. We’re back to the bread bags and the anal retentive stuff again. I can’t image the kind of childhood these people have had to endure. That has to be it.

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Not much of a reason for existing if that’s the case.

Ernst is vacuous and creepy. I have heard better speeches from beauty contest contestants.

Nice try. You must not have paid attention to President Obama’s speeches the past several years.

Also, when Obama was on the ballot, Democrats gained seats in the Senate and the House. The failure of Congressional Democrats to take the lead from him is well-documented and dates back to the 2010 election.
As someone else here said, the Republicans have the majority – for now. What are they going to do with it?

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The GOP may not set the agenda, but they control the agenda, and that’s all that matters…

Not if you have to defend what you can’t do just two years from now.

Conservatives have boxed themselves in with the national electorate. They can’t win the White House no matter which side of their party is nominated. There just aren’t enough voters in this country who identify with these clowns and white collar criminals.

They failed us on 911, by invading Iraq, outsourcing our economy and destroying the world banking system in September of 2008. And they have proven they can’t stand minorities, women and people who make less than $30,000 a year which is becoming the overwhelming majority at this point.

Introducing underemployment to the middle class will be their ultimate Waterloo. There was no reason to let Wall Street fix the markets or give the filthy rich that second big tax break…even W knew it.

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Palin comes to mind. I’ll give her that. She wows her old white male crowds.

Hey, Joni … I grew up in a wealthy northern suburb of Chicago and mom sent me to school on rainy days with Saks Fifth Avenue bags tied to my feet. But I wasn’t embarrassed … all of my friends had Saks Fifth Avenue bags, too!

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Oh goodie! Now every property owner can pay even more property taxes, no matter what is done with the land! Which of course wouldn’t bother the ultra wealthy who could then just finish buying up the rest of the land from all those poor suckers (like homesteaders) who can’t afford more property taxes. How forward looking! Yet another way to soak the poor and force dependency on them, and enrich the rich.

American Dream, my foot!

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It’s a shame that even growing up with a certain amount of hardship, she wouldn’t now have more compassion for people who are experiencing it and be on the right side, that is correct side of the argument for lifting up people. It’s been demonstrated for decades how useful government can be in doing just that. It certainly won’t be done in the private Koch sector.

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The Democrats have a very good chance of taking back the Senate in 2016 because just 10 Democratic seats are up for re-election while 24 repub seats are up. The House will stay red but only because of gerrymandering and a certain amount of voter suppression, but so far the likely R candidates for the presidency are soulless machines beholden to to the Kochs and the rest of the 1%. As to the R agenda, they want to give the impression they are united as a party on whatever it is they want to do, but that’s not the case. There will be right wing obstruction of moderate proposals, and finally the president has his Mont Blanc pen when all else fails.

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Plus. she looked and sounded like a jibber-jabbering freak.

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OK, the bovine or other manure she alludes that a (bread) bag was protecting her ‘shoes’ from is a fantasy.

There are no bread bags capable of holding fast to friction, mucking around a stall or pen, sorry and why no one has bothered to ‘test drive’ her whole cloth fabrication I suppose will be up to SNL or Maher.

perhaps she had industrial PVC bags, used for transport of large volumes of content but getting a bread bag to do what she claims, from Raley’s or Kroger’s or Wal-Mart to hold up has to be a complete lie.

Unless of course, her family bought the bags in bulk so they could change them often.

Any (EVERY) farm worth it’s salt has requisite rubber boots along with shovels and wooden/tarp dams to change the water flow during irrigation.

Who buys this crap?

I think she provided a flashback to the Sarah Palin debate with J.Biden. She was in over her head and had to try to speak about the few GOP buzzword topics she knows.

Like ms. teen South Carolina in 2007

That’s pretty good.

Also worth pointing out that they used those two months to pass Health Care Reform. So they did do something…

Joni Ernst Wore Plastic Bags Over Her Shoes Because She Grew Up Under GOP Presidents

Senator Ernst, born in 1970, today is 44.

But growing up, she lived the vast majority of her life under Republican presidents, including Ronald Reagan, who raised taxes eleven times in seven of his eight years as president.

Sen. Ernst was born during the Nixon administration, started school under the Ford administration, had four years under the Carter administration, and graduated high school under the Reagan administration.

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That isn’t the reason, money and power are, or vice versa, if it matters.
Boener and the supposed leaders like McConnell shant stick their necks out (turtle joke-haha) and risk being booted off of the money train. Especially when these gutless dogs can have women do their bidding. I don’t blame these ladies but then again, I do. They are smart enough I would think to know that they are being tossed to the wolves but dive in anyways. Boener and crew sit back and enjoy the win/win. If Lady X does well, they benefit, if not, they turn tail. Win/Win.

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