Discussion: House Judiciary Dem: ‘More Likely’ Trump Will Be Impeached Post Cohen Testimony

It’s Andy!! Thanks for the laugh. I need these now more than ever.

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Barring him walking into Congress and picking their individual pockets, can there be a plainer demonstration of wrongdoing?

“People want to be sure they don’t appear they have prejudged it.”

It appears to be over-determined already. The only appearance to worry about at this stage is the appearance of timidity in the face of aggressive, corrupt, racist traitors, i.e., Republicans in congress.

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I hope you’re right, but I’m not so sure.

Most, if not all of Cohen’s testimony has already been made public and Don the Con is still in office. Moreover, the Deplorables will not be affected by what Cohen revealed; I heard a few of them on radio today saying they still love them some Don the Con since he is doing such great job or trying to do a great job or something. What’s wrong with these people?

The display of the GOP Reps making few efforts to defend Don the Con or even asking any questions regarding Trumpsky was to me the most revealing aspect of the event. They just don’t see the need. They know he is a corrupt creep but they don’t care. And the only effort to refute Cohen was the disgraceful racist Meadows’ stunt using that poor woman as a prop, which in any event was not too effective.

And yet the GOP and the Deplorable don’t seem care that Don the Con is corrupt, disgusting, dumb, evil and worthless. He is must be delivering something to them: racism. misogyny, tax cuts, angering the libs, I just don’t know and I don’t get it.

But millions of our fellow citizens support the most corrupt politician in America.

Why?

I agree… but… there’s a difference, and an important one, I think.

I, too, am old enough to remember Watergate, though I missed watching Dean’s testimony. But Dean’s testimony came basically at the BEGINNING of the investigation. He provided the lawmakers, and even the Special Prosecutor, Archibald Cox, a road map of things to start looking at, and people to talk to.

Cohen’s testimony, by contrast, is coming at the tail end of the investigation. Mueller already knows far more than the Congress-critters who talked to Cohen. He knows things that Cohen wasn’t asked about. He knows things he told Cohen not to talk about, if asked.

I agree, completely, that yesterday’s show will change the public narrative, and not in Trump’s favor. Politically, it was YUUGE, but legally, it’s irrelevant.

It always takes longer for things to catch on than experts expect, but then the shift happens so fast that if you blink, you may miss it. It was 14 or 15 months after Dean’s testimony before Nixon resigned. It’s taken us too damned long to get here… but I’m thinking our Beloved Diaper-Stain may be headed for the ash-heap of history any moment now.

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I’m sure he’s berry, berry sorry.

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Agreed. Good that you smoothied things out.

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I’ve felt since the Fall that Dems will take the time necessary to dot all the Is and cross the Ts and that includes walking the American People through the criminality and treason of #TeamTreason.

When the American People (who are overwhelmingly not political junkies like us in the bleachers) realize, “Oh fook!” then Dems will take up impeachment knowing the the pressure will then shift to Senate Republicans.

We’ve got one shot. Yesterday was the start.

Cc @squirreltown @old_curmudgeon @news247

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A-hunting we shall go, motherfuckers. :sunglasses:

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I’m talking about the people who haven’t followed closely or put all the bits and pieces they have heard into a big picture. There are a lot more of them than we think. And, more specifically, there are a lot of people who polls show are open to impeachment (“Trump should be impeached in the future if Mueller finds X”). Those are the ones whose emotional state has (I hypothesize) been altered.

And those are the ones who are critical. When they turn unequivocally to “impeach him now,” Trump is done.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/americans-view-mueller-as-more-credible-than-trump-but-views-of-his-probe-are-scattered/2019/02/11/dbf4b146-2e14-11e9-86ab-5d02109aeb01_story.html?utm_term=.96366962a8cc

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IF they are willing to openly talk impeachment, then it’s getting closer to reality.

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And that’s critical. We’ve all internalized a sense that though he seems to commit impeachable offenses on a daily basis, he never gets impeached that has innervated the opposition and energized and engendered a sense of impunity among the Republicans and led the MSM to assume it’s unthinkable. And so before impeachment can happen there has to be, a countervailing general sense that impeachment is…hmm, what’s the phrase I’m looking for here? maybe, shall we say–a foregone conclusion. And looks like that’s begun.

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l remind myself every so often that it shouldn’t be easy to get a president out of office. If it was easy they would throw every goddamn Democratic president out of office forthwith. Obama would have lasted a month at the absolute maximum.

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Whatever “campaign” Trump may be planning may have to compete with a much more interesting (and nation-saving) spectacle.

Impeach the motherf*cker then lock him up with his crime family.