While I agree with you, problem is that House Minority is using BDS as a cudgel.
So this will always be a problem.
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Itâs all about historical context, with Jews being suspect as supposedly putting Israel above America. Given the Holocaust, I think it brings to mind in the current context something along the lines of Japanese camps during WWII, as if Japanese-Americans couldnât possibly be American first. I think there are ways to express this that donât get the same kind of reaction. Or just leave off questioning âallegianceâ and talk about policy, because motivation isnât really the central issue.
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Iâm glad Iâm not the only one.
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I disagree. She doesnât âcome off as antisemiticâ any more than Obama was âdivisiveâ because of how Republicans reacted to him. Thatâs letting the dishonest reactionaries with agendas of their own define what sheâs saying rather than allowing her to explain what sheâs saying.
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Forcing a resolution on this gives her argument more merit.
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Show me all the Japanese-American lobbying groups advocating (bullying?) for a foreign policy that sometimes arguably puts the interests of Japan ahead of those of the U.S. and I will concede your point.
Did Republicans invite the Japanese PM over to DC to try to derail our foreign policy?
Terrible analogy.
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A) Israel is an ally.
B) unfortunately this current conversation is also being used as a cudgel.
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Kinda making her point for her by singling out her remarks.
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You are far from the only one.
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Okay⌠But how is that anti-Semitic?
Sheâs not questioning their Jewishness, sheâs questioning whether theyâre Americans or Israelis first, when they support policies at odds with American stated values that conflict with Israeli political stances.
As I see it, absolutely no different than the questions we ask every day about a certain orange-haired dude and whether his allegiances are to America or to Russia. And Iâm not even certain what religion he actually is and couldnât give less of a fuck.
It seems to me we simply have to separate the (very legitimate) anti-Semitism from the Politics of Israel the Country. If I can substitute in another situation like here, and everyone would nod their heads in agreement, then itâs probably not anti-Semitism.
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I agree with every word of this. LiterallyâŚevery. word.
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I think the only thing wrong with her delivery is that sheâs yet another young person far too infatuated with social media.
Thatâs one of my only criticisms of AOC, too - eventually this new âblue waveâ will have to put down their own TwitterMachines and get to governing. Itâs fun watching them slap around Republicans, but witty retorts ainât governing.
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It would be appropriate for Omar to choose her words more carefully. She could be far more effective.
It is legitimate, and entirely called for, to criticize in strong and pointed language, AIPAC and knee-jerk support in the US for Likud, particularly among Christian Evangelicals. There need not be anything anti-Semitic about doing that.
For example, for many years any presidential hopeful had to express how solid their support for Israel (read, Likud) was, never expressing any support for the PalestiniansâŚuntil Bernie Sanders. There is a big issue here that needs to be addressed. It should not get sidetracked in accusations of anti-Semitism. I donât know that Omar is anti-Semitic. I donât assume she is. But she could aggressively and directly call out Christian Evangelicals and AIPAC without raising anti-Semitism as a legitimate concern. Unfortunately, her language has legitimately raised this concern.
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- so?
Well, thanks. Much appreciated. Thatâs a good way to further conversation. Just trying to convey it as I understand it from others â whether I agree completely or not â because someone expressly asked. Analogies are by nature imperfect. The point remains: outside of the realm of politics and policy, there are cultural issues at play. They are seldom the same thing.
Iâm not in the mood to tangle with anyone, so Iâll bid you good day.
I might be missing something here.
Are there other allies who have successfully pressured Congress to pass laws making boycotting them illegal?
I havenât heard of any, and the fact that Israel HAS done that makes it looks like Omar is not exaggerating the pressure on her in intent or degree.
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I donât think Jewish caucus members who are upset by her tone are âdishonest reactionaries with agendas.â
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Back in 1985, the Chicano Movement issued its Agenda of Unmet Needs, and of the ten issues addressed, one of these consisted of the Border Commission. Thus, America would issue its âpetitionâ to the General Assembly of the United Nations requesting that an establishment and further implementation of a Border Commission to determine the boundaries between Israel and Palestine. And upon completion and formal approval by the General Assembly, both Israel and Palestine would take a vote within their respective ballot boxes on the results of this Commission Study. And upon completion of this vote, Israel or Palestine, rejecting the Study, would no longer have access to the United Nations.
Consequently, when anti-Semitic behavior or even anti-Zionism, is being expressed, the European American Community, is pandering to both âintentional ignorance and criminal stupidityâ that currently identifies todayâs toxic politics. Therefore, Democrats expressing themselves with a vote in the House, are demonstrating their behavior for both this âintentional ignorance and criminal stupidityâ by conveniently ignoring the Latino/Native American Community of today.
Thus, the âonusâ remains on the Democratic Leadership and the self-afflicted members for dissing their responsibility and duty to uphold Decency Personified. And yes, Clinton and Obama, perfected their art and science for dissing Latinos, writ large, and which continues to this day. Take, for example, not one of the presidential candidate will ever advocate for a such a Border Commission. And their âcriminal stupidityâ is their Common Sense.
House Dems Will Vote On Resolution Addressing Omarâs Latest Remarks On Israel, Thus Proving Her Point Correct
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Weaponizing the charge of antisemitism in order to silence critics of the far right wing, international law-violating, apartheid government of indicted president Benjamin Netanyahu, and the inordinate influence they have on members of the US government, only cheapens itâŚ
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I get it - but itâs only a problem because Democrats are too cowardly and beholden to Israel themselves to use their own cudgel.
Do US citizens have their free speech rights canceled when Israel is involved?
Does Israel determine the job description and responsibilities of US legislators?
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