Discussion: Hillary Clinton: Ukraine Plane Crash 'Probably Had To Be' Done By Rebels

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The Ukraine government likely has the tools to know the difference between a warplane and a civilian airplane would not shoot at Russian air planes regardless and the rebels have no airplanes.

The Rebels on the other hand are more likely not to have the expertise to know a war plane from a civilian plane, because they don’t have any planes of their own be more afraid of any plane and be quicker to fire. Therefore saying it was likely the Rebels that shot down the airplane is like saying it was probably the man with the smoking gun.

The other possibility is that a Russian warplane shot Flight 17. And nobody wants to go there without more evidence.

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Hillary just hates to be left out.

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Enter slate-boy’s driveling emesis…

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Hillary is making it hard to support her. A president should not jump to conclusions ahead of time. If the investigation is still ongoing and we don’t know the facts, then she shouldn’t speculate. She is sounding like John McCain.

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Last I checked, Mrs. Clinton was a private citizen, and not likely to run for POTUS, either. Also, if she has jump[ed] to conclusions ahead of time, when would jumping to conclusions be on time?
Besides, as a former Secretary of State, her opinions are based upon classified information and real-world experience. I think that’s probably worth consideration.

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At this point of the game (and remember, it is a game), I have no problem with her speculating. She’s being interviewed, and she’s demonstrating that she can say aloud what most people are thinking. She’s not a public office-holder, so she isn’t constrained by the kind of propriety and diplomacy needed by someone like Obama or a Senator. Her musing aloud about this is a non-starter.

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Tom Smykowski’s Jump to Conclusions mat can help answer that, maybe.

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Brilliant! Then maybe after dinner he can go back to his apartment and watch Kung Fu…Channel 39. Totally.

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She was specifically asked about it by Charlie Rose: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkTRJgDkNFg

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“probably had to be”? So which is it?

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You have to ask yourself why anyone in the Ukrainian military would want to shoot down a plane over Ukraine. Then it seems pretty obvious that the rebels had the most reason to do it and the biggest reason to lie once it turned out to be a passenger plane.

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So she shouldn’t have responded to a specific question about the incident? Didn’t read anything, but the headline, did you?

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Seems the explains your presence here as well since you previously said you were outta here until the fall.

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“She cautioned, however, that the investigation was still ongoing and final determinations had not yet been made.”

Doesn’t sound like she is jumping to any conclusions at all, but rather laying out the suspicions (well founded I might add).

HDS is already gaining a foothold with many I see (and I say that as one who is not on the Clinton bandwagon).

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Neither side had any motive to intentionally down an international commercial airliner. This was a mistake by whichever side in the conflict launched the missile.

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Probably had to be.

She said, thinking that she was perhaps sure.

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Since Obama “Promises Ukraine President Immediate Assistance On Downed Jet,” I’d say she’s in good company.

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Rebels probably had to shoot down that threatening plane? This was Mediaite’s: Hillary Clinton: MH17 ‘Probably Had to Be’ Work of Russian Insurgents

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Hillary: “The other possibility is that a Russian warplane shot Flight 17. And nobody wants to go there without more evidence.”

There’s a third choice, the Ukraine. Its an old trick, like the Nazi’s used as an excuse to start a war when they took Polish prisoners and made it look like they’d attacked a German radio station.

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