Discussion for article #241854
The reason these people are homeless is not drugs and alcohol. It is the fact that wages are inadequate. Rents are too high. Hawaii is a canary in a coal mine. Go after employers who sit on big bundles of cash while their employees crash and burn.
Drugs and alcohol abuse are a result of these trends, not the cause of them. Greed is the cause of these issues and until that is dealt with, no number of clever low cost âshipping containersâ will relieve chronic homelessness. Tax the hell out of these jerks unless they start addressing the problem of inadequate wages, and unbridled greed.
Exactly. This is what âtrickle-down economicsâ has brought us. An unprecedented redirection of resources towards the 1% while the bottom grows exponentially. If we donât fix this soon, America is in for a massive crash.
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I wonder if this is being done because itâs affecting tourism? When I visited Waikiki, there were homeless people under the shelters. I wonder how many tourists complained.
Hawaii is an extremely expensive place to both visit and live. I bet the rise in homeless is due to stagnate wages while the price of food, shelter, and gas increases
If you plan and forcefully take away a homeless peopleâs shelter, you are âCREATINGâ a state of emergency. Itâs not as if it was caused by an act of God. In fact it was caused by an act of hate, callousness and insensitivity.
This is just on the big Island, the rest also have their issues. Oahu has a full blown tent city at the southeast end with people connecting cars with cardboard to create space and block rain. From what I saw, they were all natives and it wasnât, couldnât actually be, far from President Obamaâs home or from where he went to school.
Thatâs just not right.
Living outdoors in Hawaii is possibly better than in many places, because itâs Hawaii and has moderate temperatures, therefore more homeless people that give it a go. My point is that living in snow would sort of force you to find better cover.
I slept under the stars, close to the beach several nights and if the slightly drizzling rain doesnât get you, itâs pretty freakinâ cool really, for a few nights anyways.
There is a very lax attitude in Hawaii, unfortunately being a surf bum and paying the bills arenât exactly simpatico.
Living at the ocean isnât cheap, hell-even camping at the ocean is fairly expensive these days. Hawaii is no different and possibly worse. If you hit bottom there, itâs a long climb out.
Wait until the climate (and climate-induced war) refugees start moving around the world by the billions seeking a habitable place to live - in our childrenâs lifetime, if not our own. Drought and access to life-necessary fresh water, wherever and whosever it is, will reveal how slight our present religious and ideological differences really were.
This is just on the big Island, the rest also have their issues. Oahu has a full blown tent city at the southeast end with people connecting cars with cardboard to create space and block rain. From what I saw, they were all natives and it wasnât, couldnât actually be, far from President Obamaâs home or from where he went to school.
This is on Oahu (nothing at all is being done about the people on the Big Island). They are predominantly Micronesians who can come here under the Compact of Free Association (the woman in the picture is one, they often wear that same kind of outfit) but have little ability to get a job in this kind of place, let alone make enough to get by in such an expensive area.
@maxi2013, itâs more about development than tourism. The homeless around Waikiki were mostly derelicts and other long-term homeless and were kicked out a while ago by a similarly bad policy that made it illegal to sit or lie on the sidewalk, or to lie on the beach after midnight (the latter has resulted in tourists being ticketed, which is pretty counterproductive). Of course nothing was done about the underlying problem and they just moved elsewhere to places where more locals frequent, like Chinatown. The group discussed in the article is mostly not people with addiction or mental illness problems, but thereâs also a lot more of them. They had set up tents along several blocks of streets in Kakaako, which is an area thatâs long been neglected but is starting to have more places move in and is slated for several big development projects.
More of the source of Hawaiiâs homeless - people coming from the mainland with one-way tickets and no money. This kind of crap makes me want to tear my hair out:
http://www.staradvertiser.com/homeless/20151018_arrivals_from_mainland_add_to_demand_for_local_services.html
It isnât just Hawaii by any means, people migrate all over. Iâm originally from SoCal and the weather there attracted lots and lots of people of all types. In Colorado where Iâve been for over 22 years, we have people living in the mountains and in tents, some willingly some not.
Being homeless means you have no home. I donât even want to imagine what that would be like.
The difference is that it takes $500, minimum, to get anywhere else from here. You canât just scrape together $20 for a bus ticket to another city where there might be a job or lower cost of living.
I donât know, the recycling seemed to pay pretty well for the street people. Iâm a bit embarrassed to admit it but we just left our beer cans and other recyclables right under our cars, by the next day, they were always gone.
The recycling system here is a shitshow. It only started up a few years ago, with great reluctance, and you can still only recycle at certain special centers, not at every store like on the mainland. I donât even see that many homeless people collecting cans and bottles.