Discussion: Greenwald To Germany: No Participation In NSA Probe Unless You Talk To Snowden

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Asylum shopping?
Always do mine online.
Securely.

jw1

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'“Will Trade Secrets For Asylum”

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Because only Glen Greenwald knows how these things should be done. He is a far better judge of how a legislature should go about performing its duties than people whose only qualification for government is having won an election. It is tragic that governments persist in not doing what Glen Greenwald wants, when he wants and how he wants them to do it.

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Greenwald is back to shit stirring. He’s a complete POS.

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Add Germany to the growing list of countries GG can’t enter.

One question: Was he even asked to participate?

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“it would be incredibly irresponsible for the German Commission to try and pretend to investigate surveillance on German soil without speaking to the one person who knows more about that and is willing to talk to them than anybody in the world.”

So, a miscreant contractor is now the world’s preeminent expert and master spy of Germany???

Grifter, please.

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Blah, blah, blah, blah….

“…without speaking to the one person who knows more about that and is willing to talk to them than anybody in the world.”

What a joke. Greenwald continues to be more interested in celebrity than real journalism.

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Where in the World would GGreenBacks be without

Eddie SnowedIn’s coattails?

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This guy suffers from a serious illness. To be so smart he ends up doing a lot of dumb things. Ted Cruz anybody?

Think you guys are wrong about Greenwald. He is surely a self-promoting guy, but he gets so much shit from us on the left simply because he focuses on issues that both parties have awful records on. Had he done this work 7 years ago, he’d be hailed as a conquering hero.

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Yes, Snowden’s Russian vacation is over, and he needs to freeload, er, visit, somewhere else.

He has a nice cozy bed waiting for him here.

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Had he done this work then?
President Cheney would’ve had him hunted down and renditioned him to an unspecified country.

jw1

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Naturally, but this deliberately sidesteps my point. Liberals who would have otherwise welcomed and celebrated such truth-telling now condemn the whistleblower for little more that political reasons. Is Snowden a self-promoting egomaniac? Yup. So is Greenwald. But if you go back through the history of such whistleblowers, you’ll find similar characteristics. Yet we love Ellsburg. It is hard not to connect that with the fact that there was, at the time a Republican president. These issues are, frankly, far more important than politics.

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Ellsburg turned himself in and demanded prosecution. He didn’t flee the country and then issue diktats from abroad.

What does spying on other countries have to do with your 4th Amendment rights? What does offering to help other countries work against your own country have to do with your 4th Amendment rights?

The “Bigger Picture” crowd are like ferverent religious believers: they ignore the inconvenient and insist there’s more at stake and those inconveniences should be dismissed.

Can we have our stuff back?

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“And when Hersh complains that Bush is inured to “facts,” what he plainly means is that Bush doesn’t accept Hersh’s view of Iraq. In sum, Bush is supposed to know that he has to listen when the Washington press elite speaks, and his refusal to do so means that he is either pathologically stubborn, certifiably crazy, or a religious fanatic beyond any reason. Certain elements on the Left hungrily eat up this cheap and easy caricature.” ~ Glenn Greenwald 2005

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Imagine if this happened in 2007. Would you have blamed Snowden (whom I think is a prick in many regards) for fleeing the US government? For the very reasons jw1 stated above. Do you really think it is that fundamentally different under Obama? I would rather be tried by the Nixon DOJ than either the Bush II or Obama DOJ.