Discussion: Grandson Of Rep. Danny Davis Shot To Death In Chicago

The kid had a gun because it’s just as easy to get one in Chicago as it is to get a piece of pizza. He shot the Congressman’s grandson because he’s another kid lost to inner city “gangsta” crap. Unfortunately the Congressman’s kid, the parent of the dead child, failed to keep the young boy from that culture.

This is 1 + 1 = 2 in Chicago. Anyone can do the math and we all know what the answer is.

This is really sad! Once again, a gun has caused the death of an innocent child. How much longer do we have to live like this?

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Do you know anything about this kid? Or are you just indulging yourself in knee jerk stereotyping?

Jazz musician Famadou Don Moye’s son was killed a couple of weeks ago in a random drive-by shooting, also on the south side.

Family members say Moye was studying to be a chef and planned to join his father in Marseille, France, after graduating.

There are stories behind these kids deaths. They are people, who live in communities that are under stress, and a lot of that stress in government neglect, from a lack of gun control, rotting infrastructure, underfunded schools which have become hobbies of oligarchs, no work, ad nauseam. Just laying the blame on gang culture is a cop out.

And yes, guns are easy to get. They mostly come from Indiana, where you can buy a gun from an unlicensed dealer at a “gun show”. Pence will make your town just as gun friendly.

Danny Davis is my congressman. My condolences to him and his family.

ETA: @richardinjax - I do apologize for misreading your original post. I read cursorily, and thought you were referring to the victim, and not the shooter, which was your subject.

But that doesn’t change the fact that you do pronounce that the kids father failed him without knowing any facts about the virctim and his famitly

Or that you make lofty pronoucements about the crime because “Chicago” :

No, Chicago is not singular, and crimes like this aren’t inevitable because “Chicago”. We as a country, along with the state and city, have failed this “Chicago”. And that 15 year old kid who shot him was a victim as well, unless you think that a 15 year old with an unformed brain growing up in a fucked up world is as responsible as an adult.

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I suppose Carlos we could ask the same of you and why you feel your words are more advised than mine? I really don’t know this kid nor did I say I did. Nor do you. What I’m talking about is a situation in which a 15 year old kid home invaded another kids place and shot that kid in the head. Are we to believe he’s just another Kid in America? Or is he a Chi Town punk ( and yes I do know about those ) caught up in a life style that makes Chicago the murder capitol of America?

Tell me?

A 15 year old kid shot another kid in the head during a fucking home invasion ( how many first degree felonies in that one ) and you want to blame that crap on Pence? You want to say these kids take a long drive to an Indiana gun show when the weapons they want are sold on their streets 1/2 block away? I don’t think your goody two shoes analysis of this has a leg to stand on and I think it perpetuates it and will get more kids killed.

That’s stupid. You made an assumption about this case; I didn’t. The rest of my comment was responding to your stereotyping.

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I won’t flame war witbh you Carlos and NO ONE That knows me would call me stupid. You took an age old tired approach to my question in asking " Do you know anything about this kid" which would be OK if you knew him and Ill bet you don’t. Your defense of him is invalidated by your augment against my remarks. If I’m unqualified to speak due to lack of intimate knowledge you best have that intimate knowledge or hold yourself to what you’re trying to stick me with.

It’s fucking Chicago. That’s enough. The fucking punk was 15. That’s damn sure enough.

On edit…to say I’m stereotyping by calling an inner city Black kid from Chicago that commits murder at 15 a victim of a subculture that’s rich. You’ve just called 95 % of the people that live in Chicago stereotypers. Ask the parents of these kids what they think. Ask the Church leaders, the school teachers what they think. I’ve always thought the term “politically correct” was bullshit but you’ve changed my mind. Tell me, how you gonna fix a spade of you won’t call it one?

I didn’t call you stupid. I called your false equivalence of your post with mine stupid. I am sure that you are a smart person. But even smart people are capable of saying stupid suburban talk -radio Republican-themed talking points like:

There are church leaders who agree with me. My niece was, until this semester when the bullshit became too much for her to bear, a teacher in CPS. I’ll give you a pass, because as I recall that English is your second language, for not apparently realizing that “spade” is also a racial slur akin to “nigger”.

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Dear NRA:

Guns in the hands of immature teens is good for what reason? I’m curious.

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“He wondered how the shooter obtained the gun”

This is the critical question we must determine in each and every case before we can find solutions. Yet it is rarely revealed. We can surmise, but until we have a Congress that is not bought and paid for by the NRA we cannot hope to get the research funded to study this. If even say just one-third of the guns used in big city crimes are transported into the cities to be sold no-questions-asked on the streets from states with lax gun laws, a competent impartial Congress could make the legislative policy findings necessary to do what needs to be done.

The soonest we can get such a Congress is two years, so it is going to get worse before it gets better.

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I’m truly sorry for his loss. We’re all living in a nation of constant, drastic violence, egged on by conservative movement that monetizes fear and violence.

Gun dealers and the NRA are raking in the dough. And that’s the plan.

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good to know that violence doesn’t discriminate, I guess. my condolence’s to this youngster’s family. losing a child is possibly the single most horrible thing that can happen to a parent, I can’t even begin to imagine…

stuff it richardinjax, my older brother and his family have lived in Chicago since before my nephew was born. it’s no worse than any other big city, and a lot better than many. every area has its bad element, the larger the population, the larger that element. this was just a senseless act, committed by children wanting to be tough, an act they’ll regret for the rest of their lives.

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It’s unfortunate that in some communities, gym shoes are more important than lives,

It is the Republican version of birth control. Bonus is that it affects the “right” demographics.

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A sad truth.