Forgetting someone?
Keith Richards.
Maybe at some points . Most of the Topo maps have the address at Mar-A -Lago
1100 S Ocean Blvd, Palm Beach, FL 33480 @ 2ft or less . Not much breathing room if one of those little Hurricanes blows through
http://veloroutes.org/elevation/?location=1100+S+Ocean+Blvd%2C+Palm+Beach%2C+FL+33480&units=e
Two feet isnāt much comfort if one of the hurricanes comes along now. They abandon the outer islands like Palm Beach every time a hurricane comes near. The billionaire mansions are supposed to be hurricane resistant but I donāt think they are safe from high seas.
I lived through Andrew .
There was a storm surge of around 10 feet in Coconut Grove
Actually, no, it was a Gay-Lussacās law joke!
Admittedly kind of dumb but the point is that imminent global warming exerts pressure on scientists to leak the truth that otherwise might be subverted by the scientifically illiterate and dishonest Trump administration. Only the removal of Trump will solve this leaking problem.
I was born in 1958 and have spent most of my life living in the Milwaukee/Chicago area. Into the 1980s we would have āWhiteā Thanksgivings. Today we almost never have a āWhiteā Christmas.
That said, to our knowledge no life has ever dominated the Earth like Humans. The invention that is still most important in our domination is fire. That is burning stuff is human civilizations do. It is just common sense that human domination combined with its dependence on fire and burning is having some effect on the planet. Please forgive me for being a condescending superior SOB, but no honest person with an IQ over 25 can deny the certainty of human influence over the change in planet temperature and keep a straight face.
I have lived in the NYC area for 70 years, and although I think it is very prudent to cut fossil fuel use and produce alternative sources of energy as soon as possible, the weather is the same as it was when I was a kid. I know that doesnāt much and weather is not climate but just saying.
When my brothers and sisters starting having kids I bought them sleds and toboggans. Growing up just west of the Allegheny plateau we were used to having two or three feet of snow on the ground from November to mid-March. My nieces and nephews may have used the snow toys five or six times in their entire childhood(s).
I clearly recall a battery in my '71 Plymouth Fury II cracking in two from the cold.
These days? One or two snow events a year. Maybe.
Wow, I just finished the 21-page executive summary, itās brutal. Too bad that even the summary exceeds Prez Donnie ā2-Minutesā Trumpās attention span by 4200%, not a snowballās chance in hell that heād ever read that, much less the entire 545 page report.
Remember when we had a president who read books? Me too. Good times.
I donāt dispute anyoneās personal observations. I am just reporting on mine.
The AGW is a very serious problem and needs to be addressed through a collective effort of all humanity. Nevertheless, we should be careful not to exaggerate scientific conclusions. Specifically, regarding your second link: do not put too much stock into opinions of a single eminent scientist who is retired and, even more importantly, not an expert in the field.
I personally dismiss out of hand opinions of few otherwise eminent scientists who argue against AGW while not being experts in climatology or related fields (especially, when they are retired or otherwise less scientifically active). (I allow a possibility that such people are capable of becoming experts if they spend sufficient amount of time and effort to learn the subject and do original research ā but I do not know of such examples; actually, I seem to remember an example where a skeptic did spend a few years to become an experts and agreed with accepted conclusions at the end, the name escapes my mind right now.) We should be consistent in dismissing equally unreliable opinions of those who might share our worldview.
While you restrict your recollections to weather, not climate, you do realize that human memories, especially of their sensory observations rather than factual events, are notoriously unreliable ā whether they are recollections like yours or those of people remembering longer and colder winters? In short ā anecdotes are not data. No amount of anecdotal recollections of colder winters in our childhoods would suffice to establish global warming, let alone human influence on it. Luckily (or unluckily) we have scientifically reliable data to make that conclusion.
I think you are referring to Richard Muller, by the looks of it. His study was funded by Charles Koch and came to the conclusion that AGW is happening. Of course other skeptics who insisted they would trust Mullerās findings subsequently found reasons to doubt the study, but he stood by the results, despite his own surprise. Kudos to him for trusting in science in the end.
A ten foot storm surge would drown Rush Limbaugh.
Another chance since the 80s Rs want to deny
Iāve only been in NYC for about 35 years and I see VERY different climate now than when I came here. I remember snow storms of a couple feet, with cold that kept the snow around for weeks if not months. And in the summer, multiple 100+ days. Now both extremes have retreated. Hardly any snow in winter and we whine about the 90s.
Another worry is sinkholes, which are common in Florida. Thereās already been one right in front of Mar-a-Lago.
Global warming isnāt going to wait around for morons like Donald Trump. It catches your attention if you live not far from the ocean in California and the temperature soars over a 100 degrees on multiple occasions, and reaches highs of 107, 108, and 108 on three different days. We donāt live in the Central Valley, though it feels like the valley wants to expand westward into our county.
Luckily things are cooler this week. But it simply doesnāt matter if temperatures next year fall back to something like ānormal.ā You know where things are going. One of the heat waves did this:
Muller thought he could conduct a more careful study than the one Michael Mann conducted, and it would show no warming, but he did not realize just how careful Mannās study was. Muller was one of the last of reasonably honest skeptics, but he was not a climate scientist. Though he had the scientific training and skills to do the study.
I think will take our chances. According to the article if we stop all greenhouse emissions the temp will rise by .3 degrees Celsius but if we continue on our current path it could rise to potentially, which means it is at the high end, by 2 degrees Celsius or the difference is 1.7 degrees.
I say will do nothing and in a 100 years we will have longer warmer summers. I prefer it a little warmer