Discussion: GOPers Lose Battle To Swipe 'Blue' Electoral Vote In Red Nebraska

The U.S. Constitution specifically permits diversity of election laws among the states because it explicitly gives the states control over the conduct of presidential elections (article II) . The fact is that the Founding Fathers in the U.S. Constitution permit states to conduct elections in varied ways.

Maine (since enacting a state law in 1969) and Nebraska (since enacting a state law in 1992) have awarded one electoral vote to the winner of each congressional district, and two electoral votes statewide.

In the nationā€™s first presidential election in 1789 and second election in 1792, the states employed a wide variety of methods for choosing presidential electors

Although the whole-number proportional approach might initially seem to offer the possibility of making every voter in every state relevant in presidential elections, it would not do this in practice.
It would not accurately reflect the nationwide popular vote;
It would not improve upon the current situation in which four out of five states and four out of five voters in the United States are ignored by presidential campaigns, but instead, would create a very small set of states in which only one electoral vote is in play (while making most states politically irrelevant), and
It would not make every vote equal.
It would not guarantee the Presidency to the candidate with the most popular votes in the country.

Any state that enacts the proportional approach on its own would reduce its own influence. This was the most telling argument that caused Colorado voters to agree with Republican Governor Owens and to reject this proposal in November 2004 by a two-to-one margin.

The political reality is that campaign strategies in ordinary elections are based on trying to change a reasonably achievable small percentage of the votesā€”1%, 2%, or 3%. As a matter of practical politics, only one electoral vote would be in play in almost all states. A system that requires even a 9% share of the popular vote in order to win one electoral vote is fundamentally out of sync with the small-percentage vote shifts that are involved in real-world presidential campaigns.

If a current battleground state, like Colorado, were to change its winner-take-all statute to a proportional method for awarding electoral votes, presidential candidates would pay less attention to that state because only one electoral vote would probably be at stake in the state.

If states were to ever start adopting the whole-number proportional approach on a piecemeal basis, each additional state adopting the approach would increase the influence of the remaining states and thereby would decrease the incentive of the remaining states to adopt it. Thus, a state-by-state process of adopting the whole-number proportional approach would quickly bring itself to a halt, leaving the states that adopted it with only minimal influence in presidential elections.

The proportional method also easily could result in no candidate winning the needed majority of 270 electoral votes. That would throw the process into Congress to decide the election, regardless of the popular vote in any state or throughout the country.

If the whole-number proportional approach had been in use throughout the country in the nationā€™s closest recent presidential election (2000), it would not have awarded the most electoral votes to the candidate receiving the most popular votes nationwide. Instead, the result would have been a tie of 269ā€“269 in the electoral vote, even though Al Gore led by 537,179 popular votes across the nation. The presidential election would have been thrown into Congress to decide and resulted in the election of the second-place candidate in terms of the national popular vote.

Awarding electoral votes by a proportional method fails to promote majority rule, greater competitiveness or voter equality. If done nationally, the whole number proportional system sharply increases the odds of no candidate getting the majority of electoral votes needed, leading to the selection of the president by the U.S. House of Representatives.

In a situation in which no candidate gets a majority of the electoral votes, with the current system, the election of the President would be thrown into the U.S. House (with each state casting one vote) and the election of the Vice President would be thrown into the U.S. Senate. Congress would decide the election, regardless of the popular vote in any state or throughout the country.

A system in which electoral votes are divided proportionally by state would not accurately reflect the nationwide popular vote and would not make every voter equal.

It would penalize fast-growing states that do not receive any increase in their number of electoral votes until after the next federal census. It would penalize states with high voter turnout (e.g., Utah, Oregon).

Moreover, the fractional proportional allocation approach, which would require a constitutional amendment, does not assure election of the winner of the nationwide popular vote. In 2000, for example, it would have resulted in the election of the second-place candidate.

A national popular vote is the way to make every personā€™s vote equal and matter to their candidate because it guarantees that the candidate who gets the most votes in all 50 states and DC becomes President.

Another day, another small victory for the forces of intelligence, decency and common sense over the dumb fucks of America, a.k.a. Republicans.

I wish all states would allocate their electoral votes proportionately by the popular vote. If we have to live with the electoral college (because, tradition), at least proportional allocation across all 50 states would be more democratic.

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Then why not just use the popular vote to choose who wins the presidency? If we had that in 2000 weā€™d have had no Iraq war with all its attendant evils. We might have also retired the national debt by now.

I guess Kris Kobach is going to have to change state allegiances again in order to address this horrible injustice.

Iā€™m all for it, but it will never happen right off the bat because TRADITION and that BS about the electoral college protecting small states from the large states (nevermind that it failed to do that from the start as the first 5 presidents came from the two largest states at the time).

But moving toward all 50 states divvying up their electoral votes proportionately is a step in the right direction. Wouldnā€™t it be refreshing to see a Democratic candidate campaigning in Texas, or conversely a Republican candidate in California?

Sometimes you gotta ease the frogs into the warm water before setting it to boil.

Um, yeah, but the ā€œFounding Fathersā€ being all dead these past two centuries or so, I thought Iā€™d suggest that all states conduct elections the same way. Fact: thatā€™s also permissible under the Constitution.

As for the NPV bill, great idea in theory. In practice, the not-so-obscure clause you keep citing in your wall-of-text posts (wherein each state can decide for itself how to award electors) is exactly why the NPV bill wonā€™t work. Letā€™s say the NPV compact goes into effect, and then later on thereā€™s at least one state with a Republican governor and a Republican-controlled legislature. A Democrat wins the popular vote but would have lost the electoral voteā€“which is the only situation in which the NPV compact would matter. All that has to happen is one emergency legislative session to withdraw that state from the compact, precisely because the states can decide how to award their votes, and they have until early December (when the electors meet in their respective states) to do it.

Getting a national popular vote will require changing the Constitution. The ā€œFounding Fathersā€ wonā€™t mind (again: dead) but more than half the states will, so I donā€™t love the chances of that happening.