Discussion: GOP Rep.: 'No One's Arguing' Health Care Used To Be 'Wonderful' (VIDEO)

Great pushback. Please, more.

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And lord knows there’s been a lot of competition for that prize

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I hear that the healthcare on Kolob is top-notch! Model for Romneycare

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Representative Brett Guthrie of Kentucky yawned as the House Energy and Commerce Committee continued work on the American Health Care Act after more than 24 hours on Thursday.

Critter’s tired of all this work, work, work.

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Jordan needs a swift boot in the ass to get on the kim jong don don’t worry be happy trail.

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I’m teetering on the precipice …

I’m almost to the point to where I WANT these fucks to pass it –

Just so I can SEE THEM BURN ! ----

                  --- HELP ME ---
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The critters are headed towards the cliff.

The critical House Ways and Means Committee gave a pre-dawn approval on Thursday to a major part of the Republican plan to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act, moving Republicans a step closer toward a full vote on the measure over the growing opposition of senators, health care providers and some conservatives.

Republicans on the panel held together and rejected a variety of Democratic amendments while doing little on their own to change the health bill.

Many of the amendments were drafted to make Republicans look heartless or rash, forcing Republicans to cast votes that could be cited in campaign advertisements in next year’s midterm elections.

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That was awesome! As a CPA w/his own practice since 2001, I can testify that the insurance premiums for my practice has increased much less in the four years since ACA became operational. Typcially, 2% to 4% a year, much less than the 6%+ prior, and that was with the company changing insurance companies every year or two. I have had Oxford for the past 5 years, same plan.

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“I hear this talking point all the time,” Velshi said. "There have always been higher premiums. Higher premiums every year, and under Obamacare the premium increase has been lower.”

My god! A reporter actually pushing back in real time on a Republicans lies? The audacity! It puts me in mind of that scene in Oliver Twist:

The evening arrived; the boys took their places. The master, in his cook’s uniform, stationed himself at the copper; his pauper assistants ranged themselves behind him; the gruel was served out; and a long grace was said over the short commons. The gruel disappeared; the boys whispered each other, and winked at Oliver; while his next neighbours nudged him. Child as he was, he was desperate with hunger, and reckless with misery. He rose from the table; and advancing to the master, basin and spoon in hand, said: somewhat alarmed at his own temerity:

‘Please, sir, I want some more.’

The master was a fat, healthy man; but he turned very pale. He gazed in stupified astonishment on the small rebel for some seconds, and then clung for support to the copper. The assistants were paralysed with wonder; the boys with fear.

‘What!’ said the master at length, in a faint voice.

‘Please, sir,’ replied Oliver, ‘I want some more.’

The master aimed a blow at Oliver’s head with the ladle; pinioned him in his arm; and shrieked aloud for the beadle.

The board were sitting in solemn conclave, when Mr. Bumble rushed into the room in great excitement, and addressing the gentleman in the high chair, said,

‘Mr. Limbkins, I beg your pardon, sir! Oliver Twist has asked for more!’

There was a general start. Horror was depicted on every countenance.

‘For MORE!’ said Mr. Limbkins. ‘Compose yourself, Bumble, and answer me distinctly. Do I understand that he asked for more, after he had eaten the supper allotted by the dietary?’

‘He did, sir,’ replied Bumble.

‘That boy will be hung,’ said the gentleman in the white waistcoat. ‘I know that boy will be hung.’

Please, MSM, I want some more!

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He’s a got a ways to go just to be the stupidest dumb-fuck ever sent to DC from Ohio. I see your Jordan and raise you Mean Jean Schmidt.

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I am not sure what world some of these people lived in. Some people had good health care before the ACA, but many did not. They could reach lifetime caps and lose coverage for good. People may not be able to get insurance and either die or go broke. Not sure that is good health care. If healthcare was wonderful there would not have been a debate about it for the last umpteen years.

Healthcare and medicare are also areas where markets are not going to help. If they help massively anywhere. As there are no truly informed consumer and shopping around. Blaming government for all premium increases is also not true. Those things add up but the thing everybody left out with the premium stuff was that the subsidies to help people pay for things also went up.

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Well, you could mandate that all employers offer health insurance policies that were truly affordable for their employees, and rely on the employers to push back on the insurance companies. Can you imagine the screaming from the chamber of commerce?

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Yeah, there is nothing more valuable than a journalist who knows their stuff. Alas, there are too few of them.

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So, Jimmy “Dumb-fuck” Jordan, if no one is arguing that health care used to be wonderful, please explain why you want to return to the old system? If it’s not wonderful now and it wasn’t wonderful then, it makes much more sense to craft something that is at least closer to wonderful than to return to the status quo ante ACA.

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When someone breaks a leg, or suffers a stroke or heart attack, there is no competition. There’s no free market.

Republicans know that. What they see is potential for easy profit.

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Damn. NPR news hosts could use some training under Velshi.

Somehow, NPR news absorbed the ridiculous idea that “fair” means “impartial” which means “inert”.

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Keep your free market hands off of my Health Care! The benefits of a government run single payer system would be yuuge. 1) take private insurance company profits out of the system
2) increases coverage to essentially 100% to spread costs out to more healthy HC users
3) takes the “what insurance is offered etc.” out of employment decisions such as should I take or stay in a crappy job, should I take a risk to start my own business, etc. This would be a big help to small businesses and entrepreneurs and help drive job growth.
4) proven to work with Medicare and in other countries
5) can be supplemented with private insurance for those that want/need a higher level of coverage like Medicare Supplemental Insurance
6) gives best negotiating position for driving HC costs down to reasonable levels of compensation for providers

One the minus side, will hurt large donor base of wealthy and overcompensated HC execs. Plus it is hard to get there from here without major disruptions in the HC marketplace.

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No but I’ve known 2 people who went up there for lens implants.

All of those arguments are absolute junk - our healthcare statistics make it an absurdist joke.

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