The House will pass this bill tomorrow come hell or high water. The pressure is enormous the humiliation of failure too great. They’ve even got McConnell making promises.
This is Medicare Part D all over again. I bet they keep the voting open a couple hours and kidnap children.
You’re probably right. The House will pass it and then the Senate will further gut the remaining basic coverage for our fellow citizens. How many families will be decimated? How many will die?
gutting the benefits would also do far less to lower insurance premiums than supporters of the move claim
Not to mention how much less health care it would actually insure people were in a position to get.
“GOP Leaders Promise Dissenters That Senate Will Gut Essential Health Benefits.”
Ryan’s new promise for Crapcare Bill: “If you like your cancer, you can keep it!”
And will losing their health related benefits cause the GOP faithful to vote them out of office?
No, I didn’t think so either.
Hugh death bill!!!
This is almost like doing something, except it’s the opposite.
Watch out on this gambit!
If the public measure of merit is insurance for all (and this is essentially Trump’s claim) then eliminating the EHB will create the opportunity for essentially useless but cheap insurance policies to be created. This will raise the number of people insured, create headlines that the new bill does not leave people uninsured. Then you declare victory and a fulfilled campaign promise. Doesn’t really help anybody but it answers the mail.
It will take awhile for the all the “wait a minute” problems to be calculated and tabulated but MCConnelll is going to take of that problem by ramming the bill though.
I am totally not a supporter of AHCA but this gambit could work politically.
I don’t know how many states will allow such plans. Most took a dim view of them before the ACA.
Their cheering over this “victory” will be very hard to stomach.
The EHB rule, which the current House GOP repeal bill retains, requires that insurance plans have to cover a basic minimum of health care services, including emergency room visits, hospitalization, outpatient services, maternity care, mental health and substance abuse services, prescription drugs, rehabilitative and habilitative services, lab tests, preventive care like vaccines, and vision and dental care for children.
Rep. Richard Hudson (R-NC), the deputy whip in the House, told TPM he received assurances Wednesday from Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) that he would amend the bill when it comes to the Senate to include a provision stripping out EHBs.
You bring up a good point. If I’m reading the above correctly, there’s no there there. It would be NOTHING more than junk insurance. I mean, think about it: if insurance cos. no longer have to cover a basic minimum of services, what, the. fuck. would you be paying for???
No doctors or hospitals would accept such “insurance” because the things that people would need done wouldn’t be covered.
Maybe . . . .
But the political issue in the short term is winning the PR battle and if you could claim long enough that the there were more insured people then you might get this atrocity passed.
From a right wing perspective you have a couple of wins, you have crippled Medicaid, cleared most of the key portions of Obamacare from the field and created a political trade space to haggle over scraps that you might pull some Democrats into.
Mind you I’m not liking this set of arguments but what am I missing (aside from Kamikaze-like right wing purist maximalist opposition)
Will this sell? What non-purist argument would keep Collins and other like her from voting for this?
I truly don’t see how Congress can pass such a measure gutting the types of healthcare covered without getting Democratic support, i.e., can’t be done through reconciliation. Ryan can “promise” that he will propose this later, but the D’s in the Senate can - and undoubtedly would - filibuster it. So what do they gain except a bunch of really pissed off voters who will be told the R’s are gutting your coverage even under Medicaid?
Don’t bank on the reconciliation rules to hold back McConnell . . .
Will this sell? What non-purist argument would keep Collins and other like her from voting for this?
I’m guessing that while the Rethugs think that this will fly with the public initially, it wouldn’t take long before the horrible aspects of this debacle become obvious: you’ve been sold and purchased the equivalent of Trump University. You’ve just sunk good money into nothing. If you think the backlash is bad now, wait until a majority of people “get it.” Not to mention, hospitals would be closing almost immediately. Why? When people went to the admission desk, everyone would be told that their policy wasn’t accepted there. No insurance, no hospital.
The fear of being turfed out would keep plenty of people from voting for it. Senators don’t have safe districts like Reps do.
I’m not saying you are wrong in the longer run but frankly I would prefer that the Republicans continue to hang themselves in this nether ground between their various camps. My comment was directed to helping them stay stalemated.
And I agree. I was just trying to point out what certain Senators might be thinking/facing on this debacle.
Maybe but Senators prefer to cloak their electoral self-interest in fancier clothes. So that is the reason for my question is there a republican response to this EHB gambit