Discussion: GOP Donor Gives $1 Million To Fight Missouri's 8-Week Abortion Ban

With your stance toward it, you really can’t say that no woman you’ve been involved with has had an abortion, since they wouldn’t have told you.

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Not nearly enough.

He needs to not only oppose the law, but work to kick out the GOPers who passed this law. Unless there are electoral consequences to passing this type of legislation, it will just be brought up again in another form in the future.

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What I have found interesting today although a bit sad, it’s that it’s not enough for me to say that I believe that abortion should be legal and that a woman has the right to choose and the state should support it. Apparently I need to say that I should not try to discourage it among my loved ones.

Definitely there are Talibans in both side of the debate…

It seems to me this is more concrete action to support choice than anything Susan Collins has ever done.

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I am not a native English speaker but to me his statements reads as a general support of a woman’s right to choose, especially (but not limited to) in cases of rape or incest.
I can imagine a strong supporter of abortion rights making a somewhat similar statement because restrictions on abortion in cases of rape and incest are especially outrageous.

Given his background and his personal opposition to abortion, this statement seems satisfactory. Now the real question is whether he intends his current (and future) donations to be used for advocacy of rape and incest exceptions or the full defence of the right to choose… The question is whether he will put woman’s right to choose over other issues he advocates for… But for the moment, I consider this to be a positive statement and a positive action.

Thanks for the correction. Rachel Maddow had her Block A last night re Eads Bridge. I don’t know ‘why’ I wrote KC not SL.

Again, Thanks.

While it’s clear that Humphreys is a typical conservative Republican with a Koch Bros orientation on issues involving business, regulations, and labor, he doesn’t appear to be a goggle-eyed Evangelical, either. His bio says he’s a past member of the ACLU, which puts him at great odds with the vast majority of the Republican Party.

I think it’s plausible that he truly supports choice as a matter of law and policy, but I suspect he’s at least partially motivated by a fear that Missouri’s draconian law will bring enraged women to the polls in droves in 2020 to vote against Republicans. That will threaten his agenda of cutting taxes to the bone, gutting regulations, and savaging collective bargaining and labor rights.

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But why is it that you seem to feel fully within your rights to brow beat and bully your daughters should they experience an unwanted pregnancy? When women are finally accepted as fully human it will be clear that no one has the right to usurp a womans decision on whether to continue a pregnancy.

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Since when suggesting alternatives amounts to “brow beat”?

Your certainty that you could “talk her out of it” speaks volumes. Believe it or not it is not your job to talk your adult daughters out of anything - it is your job to support the decision they make in every way you can. If you don’t see it that way then you aren’t the father you could be.

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If my adult daughters come to me, and I am quite sure they will, is because they want my advise.

Because, if they are true adults, they will have considered all the alternatives before they decide on abortion. Given this, the idea that ’ a suggestion’ from you is going to change anything unless pressure is involved is implausible.

Further, since one in three women will have had an abortion by age 45 as.of 2017 the likelihood is that there are.women in your acquaintance who have had abortions but.have not chosen to tell you for whatever reasons.

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If they come to you that is different.

That isn’t how he framed it. That’s how you framed it.