When have Dems ever NOT all piled on in knee-jerk fashion? How many times have they been quick to be outraged, only to have it turn out that they were hoodwinked by right-wing malfeasance, including doctored videos? As my freshman-year math teacher used to say, “Wrong is wrong even if everyone is wrong, and right is right even if no one is right.”
Well, I guess that’s where we disagree – there has been no credible evidence suggested to support any of the accusations, as far as I’ve seen. Anyway, thanks for engaging in the debate, though. Really. It’s a messy topic, and I appreciate your thoughtfulness on the subject and willingness to discuss it.
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OK, she knew what she was doing. That actually makes her lynching of Al Franken much much worse. Because she knee-caped him not due to the ridiculously trivial level of the offense, but rather to show that Dems had zero tolerance. He was just a human sacrifice to allow more posturing about Roy Moore. And that is disgustingly squalid.
If human sacrifice is needed to gain “the moral high-ground”, that high ground needs to be re-thought.
Drama much? Human sacrifice? Good lord.
If you could quote the message to which you were responding, your response would be clearer. I know you were responding to me, but others may not know that.
If you are correct, Al Franken was just a demonstration of the effect of zero tolerance. As Gillibrand herself indicated, there is no proportionality in her thinking. And, that being said, no man with testosterone is safe. Just yesterday, I put my hands on a subordinate as she was backing up and almost stepping on me. Zero tolerance would consider my contact with her scapula to be possibly sexualized, but in reality i was just ensuring that her heels did not gouge my feet. But zero tolerance means that if she wants to bring me up on charges to HR, I’m toast. Luckily for me, I’m retiring at the end of the summer, so I don’t give a shit. But others might not be so lucky.
And as to your thought that these criticisms “may be misogynistic”, that’s an appalling comment. I am of the opinion that men AND women need to be responsible for their actions. You seem to be of the opinion that men are responsible, but women can say whatever they want without criticism. That’s extremely infantilizing. You appear to believe that women can be allowed to say or do whatever they want, and no one can hold them to account. Amazing.
She’s moved left now that she represents a whole state with a lot of liberals.
I get that, ‘representing her constituents’. Lived just south of her district.
But what does ‘moved left’ mean? From the 30 yard line to the 50 yard line? Until we get to Michael Moore’s camp we’ll be forever stuck in mainstream America. And no, that’s not a ‘good thing’ IMO.
'And now you are giving out commenting lessons? Thanks for the mansplain.
Yeah.
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Until we get to Michael Moore’s camp we’ll be forever stuck in mainstream America.
A Michael Moore could never be elected. Neither could a Susan Sarandon. And neither could a Bernie Fucking Sanders.
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It’s not mansplaining. It’s basic politeness. And you clearly need the instruction. It’s not mansplaining. It’s instruction for dummies. Commenting 101. Some people are clueless, and need basic instruction. It’s adultsplaining.
Now you are giving me etiquette lessons? You better quit before you get in any deeper.
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We’ll see now, wont we. Sanders is still the most popular politician in the country today.
More important things to worry about right now.
Happy to adultsplain at any time
That and ten cents would give him ten cents.
**EDIT: That and ten cents would give him ten cents toward whatever civil or criminal penalties and fines his wife might be facing for fleecing her university.
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There is a huge difference between “popularity” and “a guy that I would vote for POTUS”. Bernie may be popular, but he still will never be POTUS. George McGovern was popular. Lots of people are popular.
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The day Bernie and his wife joined the right-wing smear machine in deriding the presumptive Democratic nominee as a liar and a criminal is the day they could then and forever more go fuck themselves sky-high. Fuck Bernie Sanders, fuck his wife, and fuck any of the Bernie dead-enders who gave us Trump. They should all be cursed to walk the earth in perpetuity, trailed by a bell-ringer chanting, “Shame . . . shame . . . shame . . .”
Anyone who voted for Trump, or didn’t vote at all, because Hillary didn’t gently rub their hand while she handed them the reins for their very own unicorn, deserves nothing but constant, vicious, public scorn and humiliation heaped upon them for the rest of their lives. They should be political pariahs.
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but he still will never be POTUS. George McGovern was popular. Lots of people are popular.
We’ll see, like I said. And McGovern is a poor comparison. Democrats will have to resolve their Sanders’ issue. The Obama/Clinton Power Team got Perez to run the DNC. He then purged all the Sanders’ people and supporters but Sanders’ popularity, which you dismiss, is just as powerful. He’s not going away and more importantly, neither is his message. So keep the Schumer Pelosi ‘leadership’ and your centrist ways, and enjoy the continuing years of failure.
The only people with a “Sander’s issue” are the petty, pouty, man-baby dead-enders still whining about the DNC.
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Butthurt with hemorrhoids. Grow up and stop the whining.
Shame, Darcy, Shame. You gave us Trump. You. You are responsible for him. And none of your scrubbing can erase the black mark. Shame. Shame. Shame.
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You must have really enjoyed that novel, Zero Shades of Gray.
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