Discussion: Georgia Senate Passes Resolution Rejecting 'Negative' AP History Exam

Just another perfect day in paradise…

The thing is…I’ve seen some exceptional things in US History…and some horrible things. If you take away the horrible things, the exceptional things are worthless because they do not stand out.

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It isn’t just the war on Science. The GOP and their cohorts have been waging a war on learning in all forms. They want to eliminate our understanding of History, Literature, Science…the thing is, they’ve only just gotten to attacking science. They’ve been going after History, Civics and Literature since I was in grade school three decades ago.

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Haha…about climate change? That’s hilarious What’s in the list…decimation of brown people countries near the equator?

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Don’t you just despise history books that mention slavery, decimation of Native Americans, delay of suffrage for women and blacks, armed corporate put downs of labor organizers, unprovoked invasions of sovereign foreign nations, medical experimentation on non-volunteer/prisoner/minority test subjects, segregation of schools and public accommodations, discrimination against gays, disproportionate arrest, prosecution and incarceration of minorities and a few hundred other “negative” aspects of our nation’s history? Kids shouldn’t even be told about those things, such discussion should be initiated by their parents. Arghhh!!!

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Just what you would expect from ISIS right before they bring in Sharia law.

Funny how the GOTP christianists are so much like them muslims.

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Ever read the names on the NatGeo masthead? Some of them sound suspiciously…French!!!

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The exam asks kids to intrepret events and not just memorize dates and names.

State Sen. William Ligon ® sponsored the resolution in February, and called the new AP U.S. History course framework “a radically revisionist view of American history that emphasizes negative aspects of our nation’s history while omitting or minimizing positive aspects.”

If he can name one positive aspect that actually has been omitted or minimized, I’ll eat the “It’s her job” shirt my wife just stuffed into my mouth.

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History is studied so as to inform future generations what went wrong, why, and by whom. It should not sugar coat anything

Congratulations Artemisia!

Thanks…now I just need to do something like get this novel published :slight_smile:

The cabinet minister responsible for fighting the effects of climate
change claimed there would be advantages to an increase in temperature
predicted by the United Nations including fewer people dying of cold in winter and the growth of certain crops further north.

I’ve heard similar stuff from RWNJs here in the good old USA, but I can’t find citations on short notice right now.

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Actual history has no place in America’s classrooms, especially in Georgia. American history consists solely of Freedom From Tyranny©, Manifest Destiny®, and American Exceptionalism™. In Georgia, they are very leery of letting everyone know that Georgia was originally founded as a prison colony. There’s a reason why Deliverance was set in Georgia.

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State Sen. William T. Lignon
State Capitol
Atlanta, GA 30334

(via e-mail)

March 10, 2015

Dear Sen. Ligon,

As one of your loyal constituents, I’m following with great pride your efforts to outlaw AP History from Georgia public school classrooms, unless the communists at the College Board change the test back to how it used to be. Congratulations on getting this important resolution passed!

It’s in classes like the current AP History course where the godless liberals teach blatant lies, like so-called “separation of church and state,” and left-wing propaganda, such as that Sen. Joe McCarthy was a dangerous hack and a drunkard, and lies about about how our nation use to count the Negros as three-fifths of a white person for census purposes.

Good grief, we let them in public schools and lunch counters. What more do they want?

However, I believe you shouldn’t limit your scrutiny to AP History. The truth is, we should ban ALL AP courses. I hope you will support this as the second of certain righteous steps that are necessary to reclaim our state’s educational system from the godless and evil educators who have infected all Georgia public schools. They are entrenched, and you know this. Short of lining them up for firing squads, there is only one way to stop them.

And that is the third step: we need to close all the high schools – and by that I mean phase them out. Any student in 9th grade now could finish but nobody else could go past eighth grade. And once you have closed out the high schools, then you phase out the middle schools and outlaw all private schools. By the time this program was finished, Georgia would be known as having the best K-5 public education in the country. But that would be it.

This would ensure that the progressives would have no contact with our young men and women during the most impressionable periods of their lives. The state would save billions every year, which it could give back in tax cuts to the citizens. This would rev up the economy. It would also ensure that those students would work for cheap (not having gone beyond fifth grade) and that would create a jobs boom. Just think of all the factories and $7-an-hour jobs that would come here!

Thank you for taking the time to read this letter. I am keeping you in my prayers.

Sincerely,

Arthur Mofodopoulis
Brunswick, GA 31520

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I’m sure there will be at least a chapter or several books dedicated to the “War of Northern Agression” and how that awful interloper Lincoln ruined things.

I guess Reconstruction and the Civil Rights Movement will only consist of 3/5 of a chapter.

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“The GOP” has not been waging a war on learning in all forms that goes way back.

The forces of reaction have been waging that war. Virginia Sen. Harry Byrd, a Democrat, was one of them. He publicly stated that too much public education was a bad thing because it made the lower classes uppity and unwilling to work for cheap.

But, you’re correct insofar that “the forces of reaction” and “the GOP” are indistinguishable today. Positions that 25 years ago most Republicans considered completely looney are now mainstream GOP stuff today.

I did the archaeology on Fort Frederica…I’m not sure I would call it exactly a prison colony, but it was there to take prisoners of a certain type (debtors) and try to reform them. Of course, they barely talk about the Spanish missions that were there and how Fort Frederica was an untenable fortification.

First of all, are you talking about Harry Byrd Sr or Harry Byrd Jr. Given the era both were from, and the fact that one died in 1965 and the other left politics in 1983, I’m not sure how relevant they are to this discussion as I am talking in recent years, not prior to Lyndon Banes Johnson’s decision to use the Democratic Party to overthrow bans on various Civil Rights.

Since Ronald Reagan took office, the Republicans have been waging war against various forms of learning starting with History, Literature, Civics and Art. School boards often scheduled things like drug education to cut into History classes…and this was when I was in grade school in Florida in the late 1980’s. History was often rewritten to be more “patriotic” and less real.

Regarding your point about Byrd’s quote…yes, the Democrats prior to LBJ were the more reactionary party and were opposed to things like Civil Rights, but we’re also talking about a Party that no longer exists. It also shows a lack of understanding of History on the part of Byrd in that an educated populous may be more likely to demand better pay conditions, but they are also less likely to revolt. An uneducated populous is easy prey for rabble-rousers.