Discussion for article #224875
Don’t hold your breath until Southern Baptists ban weapons in their sanctuaries.
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It’s a start, maybe more will follow. Guns are intimidating and scare most people, and that’s just the point, isn’t it? The gun toters think they deserve to be feared, but in reality, they are loathed.
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1st Amendment vs. 2nd Amendment. Now that would be an interested case for the SCOTUS. I can see religious gun toting freaks in a panic. They’d go with their guns though–it’s the more powerful religion.
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It will have no impact. Many Baptists view Catholics as disciples of Satan down here, after all.
If anything, I would half way suspect somebody is going to bring a gun to one of their churches to challenge them.
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While its well-known that religion always trumps womens’ rights, I will be very surprised if Church is allowed to trump the right-wing nutjob gun-scum’s phony Second Amendment rights. I can’t wait for the lawsuit to see how the purely partisan low-lifes who are a majority of the Supreme Court rule when two great public goods are in conflict–the ability to impose one’s religion on others here in these United States and the “right” to carry automatic weapons with large capacity magazines anywhere one wants, including church.
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I’m trying to age gracefully, in part, by not saying how things were better when I was a kid. (They mostly weren’t.) But jeeze, when I was a kid you had to ask for a carry permit, and show some reason why you needed it. And nobody had to be told not to take a goddamn gun to a church or a school. It went without saying. That was better. This is worse.
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Yes. You’ve never seen a “No Smoking” sign in a church. No need. Guns? You might need sign for that now.
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More likely to get a “Must Carry” requirement from the SBC.
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That is very disrespectful of rule of law in Georgia and of the Second Amendment. Gun and military-loving Georgia citizens will take this to the polls when the next big Papa is elected.
This may be an opportunity for one cancer in American democracy to take on another cancer in our society.
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Fear vs. respect is a subtle concept lost on gun addicts, gang members and Kim Jong Un. They mistake the concern people have for their personal safety for respect. Respect must be earned. One good way to get respect is to show respect for others. Fat chance of that happening with people who worship their precious guns.
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I wonder if we’ll start to see some major corporations voting with their feet and getting out of Georgia.
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Why does the Church hate America?
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Gun packing priests. We should arm the nun’s with assault rifles.
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Second hand smoke is dangerous. If I consider it a weapon can I smoke anywhere?
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Good for the diocese…makes me respect Romand Catholics even more and the Georgian reps even less.
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There’s a gun writer named Massad Ayoob who asks people to think very seriously, before they get a gun, about whether they could really shoot another human being, even if that person were a deadly threat. You can’t just imagine you could do it, you have to actually do it. Not everyone can, and a crisis is not the best time to discover that. I’d guess 95 out of 100 people who buy guns for “protection” have never given it serious thought.
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The description of the law has been simplified by the press. I am from Georgia, and read it because it affected my surroundings, and I am against it for many reasons. That being said, HB60 2013-2104 specifically states that bringing guns “in a place of worship, unless the governing body or authority of the place of worship permits the carrying of weapons or long guns by license holders” is unlawful (actually just a misdemeanor). So the right to carry guns in churches is not a positive right, but has to be approved by the governing bodies of the churches in question, The Catholic Diocese is not denying a right to carry a gun under the law, it is merely confirming that it does give permission to do so on their property, which is a standard restriction under the law.
I am not sure if this would warrant a lawsuit or interpretation from the SCOTUS, since it seems that in the past, owners of private properties have had the final word on what could be done on their property.
I find the law appalling. I have issues with the originalist interpretation of the defenders the second amendment, which ignores the historical context for it and, ironically, is in fact a recent interpretation of the amendment. I see no way around the “well-regulated militia” to justify individual claims to the same right to bear arms.
I just think that this is a bad law, not only because it will in essence increase the burden on law-enforcement agencies at governmental buildings and other places to screen the good and the bad guys, but because it does not accomplish anything for the security of the people of Georgia and will increased the likelihood of random violence.
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Hillbillies can still cling to their bibles and guns…just not in church.
Undoubtedly, most trailer-dwelling Tea Potty and knuckle dragging GOPig Southern Baptists in Georgia will see this as some “Papist Plot” to take their guns away…and their response will be to make the lunatic “guns everywhere” law even more absurd____perhaps by requiring children to carry guns: “Stand Your Playground.”
Hell…most of them think Sandyhook was fake but that Professional “Rasslin’” is real.