Not entirely inaccurate, given that most of the attacks on the ruling I’ve seen have no apparent relation to the actual content of the ruling. Something on the order of 90% of people calling the conservatives on the court hacks seemed to have not even bothered to look up a summary of the majority statement or even what statute it was based on (protip: the first amendment was never a factor, nor was citizens united).
Of course, it would help if they were outraged about what was actually in the ruling, instead of making it up as they went along.
Hobby Lobby offers more than a dozen FDA-approved contraceptive methods, including female condoms, diaphragms with spermicide, sponges with spermicide, cervical caps with spermicide, birth control pills, contraceptive patches and rings, and vasectomies.
Hobbly Lobby won an exception not to provide 4 methods that they and many consider to be abortifacients.
There was a lot of hysteria from the left yesterday and it was hilarious to watch.
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Republicans and the numbskulls at FoxNews are cognitively incapable of realizing this, but the Hobby Lobby decision will prove to be a Pyrrhic victory for them.
Every reputable poll and survey shows that women of reproductive age—i.e., young women—overwhelmingly support full access to contraception. As Markos Moulitsos pointed out in a recent post at DK in the wake of the decision:
"Indeed, a May 2014 Gallup poll found that 90 percent of Americans found birth control to be “morally acceptable”. NINETY! That’s one hell of a fringe that Erickson and the Hobby Lobby crowd finds itself in.
By a 2-1 margin, Americans support the contraceptive mandate in the Affordable Care Act, including 60 percent of independents and 78 percent of Democrats. Even among Republicans, just 56 percent oppose. And like pretty much every other social issue today, age plays a huge role. Among 18-34-year-olds, 81 percent of women support it. Among seniors, just 51 percent do. And who do Democrats have a hard time turning out in midterms? Single, predominantly young women."
When young women consider which political party supports their right to control their reproductive choices and which party regards contraception as immoral, the nature of the situation is abundantly clear, and they will run away from the GOP.
What’s more, the Hobby Lobby decision will be a constant issue during the fall campaigns, which means that Republican politicians will be constantly asked to comment on it. Republicans being what they are, you can count on them throwing gasoline on the fire when they open their pie holes about contraception.
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If you’re going to troll, at least do it with the facts.
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They don’t provide any contraception at all. They subsidize insurance that the employee earns as partial compensation for her labors.
Lots of us don’t like employers dictating what we can buy with what we earn.
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Even the Supreme Court in its decision acknowledged that current medical and scientific research reveals there is no evidence that those methods are actually abortifacents.
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Done and done.
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Except after the court decision said it was a narrow finding only on the 4 forms of contraception in Hobby Lobby, the court then released a statement that most of the related cases in the appeal process - which more widely went against contraceptive meds in many forms - were also covered, thus making the ruling in effect much wider. Yahoo News report here http://news.yahoo.com/justices-act-other-health-law-mandate-cases-133633160--politics.html;_ylt=A0LEV0_Jw7JTfGsAwEJXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTB0aTRxYjk3BHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDQ2NF8x Ruth Bader Ginsburg in her dissent explains why this ruling was wrong - very wrong, and Charles P. Pierce has a good explanation in his Politics blog on Esquire.com http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/The_Hobby_Lobby_Case on why - connected to the 1993 law and comments from the Supremes on other cases brought under that law - the sweethearts at Fox are wrong. Maybe “hysterics” is over the top, but the next day “clarification” (ie broadly widening a decision that claimed to be narrow) and, especially, Justice Ginsburg’s dissent should raise significant concern. This ruling is much more than “unfortunate.”
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Well, you’ve been fooled big time, because that “restriction” indeed was just Alito taking the first stab, which later got expanded into the reality that the ruling is really not “narrow.” See http://news.yahoo.com/justices-act-other-health-law-mandate-cases-133633160--politics.html;_ylt=A0LEV0_Jw7JTfGsAwEJXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTB0aTRxYjk3BHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDQ2NF8x
What seems to be little known is that what the court announces is always a first draft of sorts, and they they can do things like that reported by Yahoo News, and indeed make further changes, some significant, long after the announced ruling.
In this case, those who were “hysterical” had good reason to be, to be more accurate, “deeply, deeply concerned,” and while you might have been entertained, you were very fooled. Hope you enjoyed your cheap laugh, perhaps someone will slip on a banana peel and give you additional laughs. Especially if they break their nose or something. Ha. Ha. Try not to laugh hysterically.
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Small minds are easily amused.
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Heck, over 40% of the court found the law to be acceptable, and there’s a significant margin of error if you extend that small sample across the entire population.
Hopefully, Rs will continue to comment, and those who support the law will do the unusual and get out in mass numbers this November when it’s usually just the base in off year elections. The 50 state strategy and OfA in its GOTV role needs to be fired up, and this decision, especially the added “clarification” which greatly un"narrow"ed the ruling, might just be the catalyst.
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The march back to the 1840’s continues on FOX News.
It is a very short step for them to start claiming on the air that Blacks were better off as Slaves, and Women should not have the right to vote, and Only White, Male, Landowners should be able to vote.
The Christian Dominionists are being whipped up as their Brown Shirt ground troops for the Oligarchy that supports FOX News.
Theocracy here we come.
It sucks that Riech-Wingers see “The Handmaidens Tale” not as a cautionary story, but as a Instruction Manual.
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Please, sir, explain to us silly, bubble headed women what was actually in the ruling since you’re clearly so much better informed than the rest of us.
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Well, many people of faith believe otherwise and rightly so. And, I many realize people lack faith or compromise their beliefs for political gain. Hobby Lobby just doesn’t want the government to impose its morality on them.
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What was there to be outraged about? Hobby Lobby didn’t want the government to impose it’s morality on them and the Supreme Court rightly agreed.
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I’m sure it was fun to watch, but what was even more fun was watching the DNC and DCCC each raise a million dollars in a day, and I’m sure Planned Parenthood didn’t do too badly either. What will be even more fun is watching you morons take what you think is a victory march which in reality is a helluva lot more like a death march.
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When you slip on that banana or break your nose, let me know and I’ll laugh the rest of the day. In the meantime, please continue on with your hysteria.
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It had nothing to do with imposing morality, you moron. Hobby Lobby already covered 16 of the 20 recommended forms of BC, but had an objection to some types of BC that they erroneously believe cause abortions. Their so-called objection is based on a failed understanding of procreation. Clearly, that doesn’t bother you, being that sex isn’t something you’ll ever have.
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