Discussion: Five Points On Where The Obamacare Repeal Saga Stands Right Now

If the Republicans manage to do away with the federal funding for Medicaid expansion then the Democrats need to keep telling the people in the Republican led states that Sen. Cruz, Rubio, and Lee are the ones leading the effort to make sure that the people who benefitted from this are the ones they are going after. That should quash any future Presidential runs from Cruz and Rubio (if he decides to show up to vote that is).

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Does Paul Ryan remind anyone else besides me of a middle school bully standing in front of the class ready to give his first speech and daring anyone to make fun of him?

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Please, please, use the grammar you must’ve learned in school: it’s “Democratic presidents,” i.e., capital “D” and “-ic” at the end of the word, which is an adjective. Republicans use “democrat” as an adjective all the time, and somehow it’s an insult. Our side doesn’t have to use it too!

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The best thing Republicans have going for them is that they don’t give a fuck if people get health care or not. It’s strictly a public relations matter involving the 2018 and 2020 elections. If they can lie and bullshit their way through the process, perfect.

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Paul Ryan’s intelligence is shockingly overrated. He got to Congress and could look at budget numbers without falling asleep so the other idiots thought he was smart. We need him and Donald Trump, who has all the answers, to show us the monthly budget for how a family of four lives on $20,000/year in a safe environment with good schools.

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Shorter Republican repeal strategy: We are going to pay insurers to not provide insurance to the American people. You die, they thrive. That will definitely make America great again!

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Well, I think it is a big assumption that he looked at them without falling asleep. The assumption more consistent with evidence is that he fell asleep and he used the numbers that came to him in a dream, which has nothing to do with reality.

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The second worse thing to them repealing without a replacement of a shitty replacement, is listening to them talk about repealing it for 4 years without actually doing anything, which I’m guessing is what we’re going to see…and hear.

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“What once was a campaign slogan now must be done, but jamming the bill through could come with unintended consequences rank-and-file Republicans are waking up to.”

The only “unintended consequences” are that the people both helped by the ACA AND that voted R are (hopefully) realizing that the party doesn’t really care about them at all.

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Have no fear: these maniacs will make the worst possible choice, hurting the most, costing the most.

It’s in their DNA.

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The Republican party ceased being a governing party and transformed into an opposition party in the1990s with the Southern takeover. I believe we are kidding ourselves if we think the complexity of ACA repeal will stop them.

Having idiotically backed themselves into a corner on this issue, they will all simply hold their nose and vote to repeal, and hope they can put Humpty Dumpty back together again later.

This is like watching a slow motion train crash.

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Simple solution to bankruptcy caused by major medical issues. Pubbies just need to include changes in the bankruptcy laws to prohibit discharge of medical debts in bankruptcy court just like they changed the laws to prohibit discharge of student loan debt in bankruptcy court. Problem solved.

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As it turns out, some of the people who benefited the most from Obamacare are the same ones who voted for Trump and the Republicans.

You don’t say!? Wow, it’s as if the media is just now paying attention! Wouldn’t it have been interesting if instead of Trumpapalooza 24/7 the media might have done daily interviews with Trump voters covered by Obamacare and actually informed them they were voting to throw themselves OFF of it!??

I say let the GOP destroy our healthcare and insurance system, and then charge them with fixing it themselves. Responsibility as a citizen promises no safety net and we should show people what they voted for.

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lol…well…one cant be good at everything…interesting what passes for insults these days…i hope you follow me around…offering your knowledge on everyone of my comments… though i am unsure if democrat is wrong because you think it an insult or because it is wrong grammatically.

ps…i long ago forgot everything i “learned in school”.

The Republicans are the dog that finally caught that damn bus! LOL! They are so screwed, now that they own the health crare issue, lock stock and barrel.
No Dems or Obama or Clinton or other excuses to bail them out now. They are skee-rude! They have only their blind hatred and cynical and desipcable attitudes and policies to blame.

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Not so sure about the day of reckoning… Look what Kansas does to itself year after year.

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Exactly, Kansas and other red states particularly will crater and become dysfunctional hellscapes of poverty. I say we let Republicans destroy what they insist on destroying and enjoy the backlash. I feel bad for people getting hurt, but we offered them an election recently, and almost half didn’t bother to even participate. This will be instructive for them.

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Agreed. Maybe they can take a vote to declare that Obamacare will henceforth be known as the Affordable Care Act…kinda like renaming a Post Office…and declare victory.

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My GOP Rep, Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-San Diego), #4 in the House ‘leadership’ and Chair of that black committee that tried to emasculate the Ethics Office, calls the roll-out of Obamacare “disastrous” while she plans on kicking 750,000 now insured Washingtonians to the curb. These GOP thieves, who’ve promised for years to ‘replace’ don’t even have a clue for a replacement much less a plan beyond, “Die quickly, poors.”

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Iraq comes to mind. Break it based on phony, politically based assertions, then figure out what to do. Let the market work its magicks!

“At this festive season of the year, Mr Scrooge, … it is more than
usually desirable that we should make some slight provision for the Poor
and destitute, who suffer greatly at the present time. Many thousands
are in want of common necessaries; hundreds of thousands are in want of
common comforts, sir.”

“Are there no prisons?”

“Plenty of prisons…”

“And the Union workhouses.” demanded Scrooge. “Are they still in operation?”

“Both very busy, sir…”

“Those who are badly off must go there.”

“Many can’t go there; and many would rather die.”

“If they would rather die,” said Scrooge, “they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.”

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