Discussion: Five Points:How GOP Got To A Place Where Iowa Is Between Cruz, Trump

Maybe he’s carrying and was checking his shoulder holster.

He likes playing with his nipple ring when he’s stressed.

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DaveyJones: On another slightly different front, but as continued proof, how did Reagan get out of the late 70s recession? Deficit spending to beef up the military.

obama’s 1st priorities were stopping the bloodbath in the financial and auto industries and housing market. think what could have been accomplished if, in 2009, the gops would have gotten behind a large infrastructure push that would have created jobs, got people off unemployment and paying taxes again, and picked up all the support businesses that are involved in construction projects. but no. deficit spending that will get us moving again? gop austerity logic. they are economic bullshit artists that fucked up this country and can’t get out from under their failed ideas.

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Love the loud and pervasive response here pointing out the bigotry and racism of the GOP.

Remember Reagon in Philadelphia Mississippi in 1980? Welfare queen? Bush Sr embrace of Lee Atwater…the bigotry has been alive and promoted by the GOP for decades now. Adding Muslims, Hispanics…

The only thing to recond with this is reparations (hugh sums to the Blacks after centuries of abuse and exploitation) like we did to the Japanese after WWII.

also 2. The Republicans are entirely owned by the wealthy class, and corporations. Their only real issues were tax cuts for the wealthy, and repealing any laws that interfered with their hoarding of wealth. In order to get the votes needed to win elections they play at being racists, bigots, radical Christians, etc. But, in the past, once elected, they were wise enough not to actually do anything to reward those voters. Now, those voters have found some new candidates who they believe will finally deliver, and bring back the 19th century. If Cruz is elected, with a GOP Congress, we can expect to really revert to the 19th century. If Trump is elected the wealthy will pay no taxes and have no restrictions on their money hoarding.

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I was. And while I’m fatter than I should be, I don’t think I’ve hit Christie levels of “everyone”.

…and, somehow, at least one person misses your point.

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We have moved past the word ‘Orwellian.’ We have moved past ‘Kafka-esque.’

We are now, and I really mean this, in a 'Looney-Tunes-ian" era of Republican politics. I just saw Donald Trump paint a tunnel on a brick wall and run straight through it, letting Cruz squish himself flat trying to copy him. This is beyond the dreams of Loki.

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Cover isn’t the verb I’d choose. Coverage should be unbiased by “evenhandedness.” I think I’d use advertise.

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I wish I could foretell the future that easily
In any normal election cycle, yeah, the GOP would sink in flames. But this isn’t normal or logical. We have been sucked into an alternate universe by The Big Mouth and we are therefore in uncharted territory where the old rules aren’t working. In what other election has a candidate insulted and disparaged nearly all varieties of Americans and clearly shown his racism and misogyny and yet gains in the polls to become the clear GOPer leader. In just the last 3 days trump has called Megyn Kelly a bimbo, then said he’d stop saying that and then almost immediately calls her a bimbo again and after that tweets a photoshopped image of herwith a Saudi Prince. And at the nearly same time he crows about how he loves and cherishes women (very obviously as objects he owns).

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This is all great, the likelihood of a Trump or Cruz nomination that makes the general election more winnable for the Democrats, but the Democratic Party is still facing some deep-rooted challenges in the years ahead. Even if we win the Senate back in 2016, we’ll have a ton of seats to defend in the 2018 midterm election, and we’re still way behind the R’s at the statehouse/gubernatorial level. Voter suppression, Citizens United money, and gerrymandering are other factors that make it difficult for us to level the electoral playing field. Our two potential standard-bearers are 69 and 73. I love President Obama, think that he’s done an amazing job, and wish he could run for a third term, but I wish he’d been able to shift the parameters of our politics more in a leftward direction as Reagan did for the R’s in the 1980s. He made a very apt comment about Sanders last week, sympathizing with Sanders’ frustration re “Why are we still constrained by the terms of the debate that were set by Ronald Reagan 30 years ago?” Exactly. Those terms have been changed somewhat by President Obama, and I believe the overall electorate is more center-left now, but the R’s have succeeded to a large degree in continuing to control the game through the elements that I listed above. (We have GOT to stop getting clobbered in midterms, for starters.) It just seems that this time around, presidentially speaking, we are spending a lot of time hoping for the R’s to nominate a despicable candidate because our strongest potential nominee brings a lot of baggage with her, and our most base-inspiring candidate would be a hard sell in a general-election contest.

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There is no Republican Party.Now there is the Tea Party Whatever as the old GOP have been well eaten by now.
2-3 decades worth of far right jesus, inviting in extremists, and all of the hateful propaganda has created a monster.

All of you have to vote.You must do your duty in every election now.Do it before it is to late.

I’ve yet to read a cogent approach to leading a nation comprised of a pronounced plurality of citizens bereft of even the most basic levels of knowledge about civics, history, science, law, economics, foreign affairs or government. You may as well be asking Democrats to herd cats. Brain damaged cats at that.

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How about the fact that he has not explained what he plans to do. He has given absolutely no DETAILS.

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When the party stands for nothing more than anti-Obama nihilism, it’s not surprising that a bully like Trump or a nihilist like Cruz floats to the top of the septic tank.

“I’ll be the worst dictator Satan ever created” would be more accurate.

the only positive to come out of these four decades of steady GOP wingnuttery is that, as the party descends further into the swamps, their party affiliation numbers have followed suit. has there ever been a time when less Americans identified as Republican since the party’s inception?

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^^^ THIS ^^^

The “press” (to use the archaic term) does indeed have a responsibility, and they have abandoned it.

that’s because the party has become so stupid that any allusion or nuance is lost on their masses.

gotta tell it to 'em straight 'cause anything else is librul and elitist…

nipple play - gets him ready for a real man’s debate