Discussion: Five Charts With Some Bad News For Trump Policies

Based on the headline, I anticipated info from 5 sources rather than from a single poll.

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I have family members who support Trump, but, after many fruitless attempts to have a rational conversation, I now refuse to discuss the subject with them. I don’t want to break the relationship, but we simply do not talk about Trump.

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Dumbo never campaigned on smarts or good policy. He’s mean, he appeals to the worst of the worst and he can enrich himself while appeasing them. This was always the plan and there will be no change-o-direction.

The numbnuts that adore him give him enough adulation and his parallel universe of facts fills in the gaps.
The agenda is payback based and typical of all bullies and insecure punks, it’s just reached phantasmagoric levels never seen before in the annals of human history.

This is a dogfight not an honorable duel. The Junkyard Dog, AKA POTUS, won’t back down just because he’s unpopular or because he has tiny hands and all that goes with that. He just overcompensates by doing a Presidential version of endless petulance.

Bad policy is the policy IOW.

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Keyes misunderestimated the power that was O.

@leftflank You’ve summed it up nicely. The more the sane part of the population protests, the more his bots adore him because it proves in their minds he’s right because the opponents are rabid foaming at the mouth libruls. Read any message board and you’ll see how much they love him. Unfortunately, they only know how to express it by raging against the rest of us.

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OK, this is… mildly good news, I guess. But Trump is doing exactly what he said he’d do, throughout the campaign. He was still elected.

I get a little frustrated at people bitching about this now, when so many people didn’t even bother to vote (or threw away their vote on a third-party ā€˜protest’ candidate). Those are the people who gave us Donald Trump as president. It wasn’t just the people who voted for him, but the people too stupid or too lazy to vote for the alternative.

Polling doesn’t make any difference when we still can’t be bothered to vote. I’m not talking about the people here, necessarily. Most of us do vote, and in every single election, I suspect. And I certainly hope that most of us are smart enough to understand how America’s two-party system works.

But the Republicans didn’t win the election so much as we lost it,… as we did in 2014, 2010, and for years previously.

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This is it. It gets harder and harder for us to win with voter suppression, fake news, gerrymandering now we had Russia helping out and fake email scandals, but voter apathy and lack of engagement are tough nuts to crack. Just putting a new guy in charge of the DNC won’t do much either if anybody’s thinking that’s the answer.

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In the poll question Rachel mentioned last night about who should be president Pence got 30%, Trump 38%, Not sure 32%.

heheheh

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Dodd-Frank might not be so easy to blow up. They might pick away at it, like with the ACA, though.

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@littlegirlblue

I’m thinking that the tendency is to drastically over think President No So Bright.
He is only doing what he’s always done but now with the force of the universe.

He’s beatable but not by producing charts or publicizing his weaknesses. He’s strong about one thing and that’s focusing on his own positives and ignoring the rest.

Finances probably aren’t his weak spot anymore because he has access to too many outlets now to bail his ass out all over again.

Exposure is the line of attack that I see as getting to him. His taxes, his dirty deals, the Russian connection, the video(s), etc., etc.

Unpopular is what he is but that just cranks up his mean bone and causes the death spiral to continue.
We need real tangible evidence that sticks or else President PeePee Vonn Ruskie is a fixture right in the way of our happiness.

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There is planning going on right now for a protest march on April 15 to highlight that he hasn’t released his taxes. So for that day and some time after the focus will be on his taxes. But he’s not going to fold because ā€œunder audit.ā€

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Rachel talked about this last night. The most chilling thing I think is that 51% of Trump voters think Trump should ignore what the courts rule and do what he wants. That 51% may not all be stupid, but they certainly are ignorant of American Civics 101.

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Just like the Orange Menace, they really have no idea that businesses run on profit and loss decisions. #GrabYourWallet may be having and effect, but their stuff, like everything else they do is a scam to ripoff someone. The OM attacks high profile stores like Macy’s and Nordstrum who pulled trump (deliberately not capitalized) products for flagging sales, but even Dollar General(!) CEO says: ā€œWe at Dollar General take pride in offering only the finest merchandise at the lowest prices. Unfortunately Ivanka Trump branded items failed to meet even our questionable quality standards.ā€

Damn that’ll burn.

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50-60% is nothing. That’s the kind of numbers that we initially saw for opposition to the iraq war. You need 70-80%, like the opposition to gutting social security under Bush II.

Great, he’ll respond with tax increases for 99% of us.

I always wonder that if his tax returns are all that bad aren’t the people at the IRS aware of the dirty deals and responsible for reporting them? Isn’t there a code of ethics or some form of professionalism that makes them report suspicious activities?

And btw, I love the marches. This is a blatant rebuke of Trounce’s ill governance.

No surprise, but I really take exception with calling it ā€œAnother Realityā€.

They’re not living in reality - period.

There is only one. And ā€˜they’ ain’t innit!

I prefer the more accurate ā€˜idiots’.

If I’m feeling generous I may use ā€˜delusional’ or even ā€˜duped’.

I’m not feeling generous these days…

They are, and will remain ā€˜idiots’ and I feel no reason whatsoever justifies accommodating them. It would be un-American to do so.

Again Trump is following a very Russian-like script. Ambitious plans that run into trouble out of the gate and ultimately only get marginally implemented if at all. But it doesn’t mean he won’t work to consolidate his monopoly on state violence and the use the legitmacy of office to do bad things to enemies real and imagined. There still seems to be this hope that what has happened is a transient event and the US will right itself and get back on track soon. I don’t think so. Trump is more of a buffoonish Yeltsin-like character, but a successor to this autarkic model is probably already out there, the American Putin. Probably not Bannon or Kushner, but the person would be close to Trump. Pompeo, the new guy at CIA, is just a bit too tarnished with all that Benghazi stain and his outspoken position on Total Surveillance. Keith Schiller is a bit too flaky. Which brings us, as always, back to Flynn. Unlike Putin, Flynn has had problems from his first day and he is a loose cannon. My sense is that Trump has not given the successor problem enough thought (and succession is probably the biggest issue in a dictatorship), which probably is why inside-outsiders like Devin Nunes see this as such an opportunity.

No need to go down that path. Trumpistas deplore political correctness and will admire you for speaking truth to power. But ā€œidiotsā€ might still be too PC.

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More good news for Trump:

That snowball’s getting mighty large.