Discussion: FBI Joins Criminal Investigation Into Boeing 737 MAX

Given the level of corruption and pay to play in every other segment of this administration, it seems reasonable that here, too, we will find fraud and a lack of concern for the actual mission of the FAA.

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Criminal indeed . A bad sensor crashes the plane and the pilots lack the basic instruction that if it screws up JUST TURN THE AUTOPILOT OFF!!!
Even worse the Lion Air plane did it the day before and the plane was still in service
A confluence of incompetence and criminal behavior


Sigh … seems like only yesterday Trump was taking credit for zero commercial aviation deaths:


“Criminal investigations into the aviation industry are exceedingly rare in America and point to the seriousness of the fatal and well-publicized accidents.”

This more than an investigation into aviation industry, but an investigation into the FAA itself for not doing what it was supposed to do. Apparently the the FAA allowed Boeing to certify its own aircraft.


Regulatory Capture at its finest.


Yes. FAA handing certification authority for planes to Boeing (in a rushed process, according to Seattle Times) is akin to beef industry certifying the sanitary standards of its own slaughterhouses. Talk about grading your own homework.


Since the MAX series was FAA certified in 2017 under Trump’s watch, it only stands to reason that he also take ‘credit’ for the 346 deaths he caused.


But those deaths were mostly brown people, not a lot of good old red, white and blue people.


I believe slaughterhouses actually do rate themselves, since FDA and OSHA personnel have be slashed to the bone.

But hey, industry knows best how to regulate itself, amirite?


Both 737 MAX planes that crashed were lacking two safety features. They were lacking them because Boeing charged extra for them. Why? Because they could.
Kind of like car makers charging extra for airbags and seat belts. Now, they’re going to make one of them a standard feature.


America’s commercial aviation industry has consolidated down to Boeing. Now there are two world class manufacturers of airliners, Boeing and AirBus. AirBus has been eating Boeing’s lunch of late. It has the advantage of being owned by a bunch of EU countries so it can afford to take technical risks that are currently beyond Boeing. Wonder why the 737 Max is just a 737 with upgraded engines and not all new? Boeing has demonstrated that it has the corporate chops to keep every other American company out of the airline space, but it doesn’t seem to have the technical ability or maybe the financing it had back in the day. The Federal Government knows that AirBus gives Boeing fits and has grown all too eager to help the America’s airplane company compete with the Europeans. This isn’t a Trump thing or even a Republican thing, this is an American government thing in a world where there really isn’t a free market. Our government just isn’t set up to supervise an industry with only one competitor.

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My comment just above suggests we might want to think about the emerging world economy where the entire planet is one market place. That is what is emerging and has been emerging since Truman dropped the bomb. The Chinese recognized the new world economy but the Russians haven’t. Some American leaders recognize it but most don’t talk about it with regular Americans. From that point of view Trump’s America centered economic policy complete with country specific tariffs is downright quaint. At some point in the near future we are going to have to recognize that the world has fundamentally changed and adjust world governance and economic policy accordingly.

As the Brits are discovering once you join a continental sized market it is really hard to go back, at least to go back without hurting your citizens. Trump wanted to end NAFTA, but in the end was only able to rename it and make some needed and agreed changes. Think about the impact on America if we really try to pull back from the emerging world economy.

Remember this:

The tariff quadrupled the price of the Bombardier jet because Boeing did not like competition.

Yes. I’ve understood that to be true about agricultural inspections for some time.

It bothers me a great deal that the FAA-Boeing 737 agreement took place under the Obama administration. As Dominic Gates wrote in the Seattle Times on Sunday:

“As Boeing hustled in 2015 to catch up to Airbus and certify its new 737
MAX, Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) managers pushed the agency’s
safety engineers to delegate safety assessments to Boeing itself, and to
speedily approve the resulting analysis.”

Complete and very troubling story from Gates here:

Sounds like it’s Boeings time in the barrel.