Discussion: Father Denounces Son Identified As Participant In White Supremacist Rally

Sure, Trump will let this disowned son come – so long as he pays whatever egregious price everyone else does. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Gee, I was just not joining Twitter because it’s a deliberately badly managed company where the CSuite Suits keep everything and they’re too cheap to hire software engineers, even cut rate ones, so your personal information goes on sale to Who-knows-who the second it hits their database.
But your reason is OK too.

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“Cite a source?” Tefft replied. “On the internet.”

So this internet post counts as an authoritative source?

Sweet!

OK, here goes:

"You’ve brought unspeakable pain and unending shame to the parents who gave you life.

The diseased hatred you spew dishonors the United States and its First Amendment.

Your ‘cause’ murdered 6 million innocent men, women, and children in gas chambers.

An entire generation of Americans died to crush the Nazi scum you worship.

Your life will be utterly wasted on the ash heap of history."

Cite that, Sparky.

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I wish his dad had been able to intervene like this earlier.

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I have to say I think there’s something slightly wrong with this. Not with a public disavowal of your child’s offensive beliefs; I think that’s probably even necessary for the family’s survival in the community. But I missed words like heartbroken, maybe even love, though I can accept that a parent who’s got a Nazi for a kid might cease to love the child. People I know, though, can’t stop loving their kids no matter what.

So while I think this kid’s a piece of shit myself, I’m not sure I can totally high five his Dad either. There’s something a little too cold about his statement and you can make monsters out of your kids in lots of ways.

So, just my take. Attack at your pleasure.

I’d be surprised – not shocked – if this drives any significant wedge in the GOP. They knew who they were voting for back in November. The difference between Trump and Pence is that Pence (and Sessions and Kobach and many others) is good at racism. An effective racist/bigot in 2017 focuses on voter suppression, harsh sentencing laws, the disingenuously named religious freedom laws, etc. Trump is just not good at racism and the GOP doesn’t want to be caught wearing an “I’m with stupid” shirt when he screws up. This is the Monday problem for Trump, by the end of the week the media will be talking about how cutting taxes for the 0.1% is so great for factory workers.

Hopefully I am wrong, but I think the only issue that could cost Trump his nominal support from the GOP establishment is if he does something perceived as egregiously bad for the military (assuming, of course, that he does not suddenly come out in favor of a universal basic income or confiscatory tax rates – but that seems less likely than trying to start WWIII).

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I hear you. But we actually don’t know what conversations have taken place in the past. We don’t know how threatened they may have felt along the way. They also are now victims of his- given the shame and anger that they are facing. How many people assume that those marching learned hate at home? I can understand perhaps not feeling loving towards his son. It is a statement written in anger and perhaps Dad is not at his best.

Parenting has taught me to be humble in how I judge other parents. You really have no idea what is going on in someone else’s home.

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Sometimes it is an act of rebellion, misguided as it may be. I know a few progressive parents who are watching as their teen boys go through similar patterns.

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No I understand totally and, as I said, I think a statement of some sort would be necessary to protect the family generally.

And I’m not judging the man. I’d probably hate the kid myself, but I do get something that isn’t loving here, and it makes me wonder if that was perhaps always the case, and for other, less substantial reasons, earlier on.

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I’ve been waiting for some parents to finally step up. Thank you, sir, for condemning this and your son who is part of it.

I am grateful.

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And check your brakes and watch your backs.

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The father didn’t mealy mouth it by using the typical “Well… we didn’t know, he had never really expressed his feelings, blah, blah.”

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Good on the dad

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I would also add that we faced this in the 90s with the militia groups starting with Ruby Ridge and culminating with the OKC bombing. Though it started under George HW Bush, Bill Clinton bore the brunt of this anger under the guise of being an ‘anti-government’ movement. They had a really big supporter in Newt Gingrich and his revolution. He soft supported those racists and capitalized on Clinton’s crackdown at Waco to drive white racist anger (with more clever anti-gov’t marketing) to win the 94 elections.

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Peter will only accept the invitation if the Thanksgiving turkey is ALL white meat.

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Stormfront will start a GoFundMe account, keep half the proceeds, and this kid will still end up with a pile of cash for his trouble.

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Which he will promptly run through with purchases of guns, big wheeled pickup trucks, meth and moonshine.

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I am both heartened that he had the strength to do this and heart-broken that it was necessary to do so.

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The courage and conviction of Mr. Pearce Tefft reminds me of families who state in Court their opposition to the death penalty being imposed upon the person who was convicted of murdering their child.

The principles and values of what life means, that they are expressing, is a compassion for others that transcends the loss, by different means, of their children.

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Wow. Just wow.

Pearce Tefft said. “Peter, you will have to shovel our bodies into the oven, too.”

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