Discussion: Family Of Muslim Teen Hires Lawyers To Get His Clock Back From Police

Gonna have to agree fully with that analysis. Moreover, it could be used as evidence in a lawsuit against them, so they’ll no doubt “lose” or destroy it and claim that it was part of standard procedures to do so. Think of it this way: if seeing non-zoomed-in photos and pictures of it that allow you to understand the scale of a pencil case…rather than the released photo that deliberately tried to make it look large enough to be a suitcase or briefcase bomb…is enough to make the public say “hey, wait a second, that really is some serious bullshit the school and police pulled,” then what would it make a jury say?

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Mohamed built it once. He can build it again. Hahahaha.

I was hoping that another school would ask that he and his sisters enroll, however. Not sure I like the homeschooling idea.

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yes

Shoddy policing.

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That’s why he was not charged. But it still was deemed a suspicious device, and with good reason. So the police can hold it as long as they want.

The clock was deemed a “suspicious device”, and with good reason. They can hold it if they want, even if it was “accidentally” created.

The homeschooling is extremely unfortunate. Maybe the family can win enough money in a lawsuit to send the kids to a private school where they won’t be surrounded by a bunch of morons.

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Just read your response to another commenter:

It looks far more like a movie bomb than a clock. This is conspiracy fact, not theory. I could go through a library of movies and not find ONE clock like that…unless it had a bomb inside. A terrorism expert has nothing to do with this. No one called this in as a bomb, they called it in as a hoax bomb, a bomb that looks like a bomb on TV. And it does. That’s not a theory. It’s a fact.

A bomb like on teevee? That’s what you’re going with? Pitiful.

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No, the police decided not to press charges, calling it a “naive accident”. If you read the Statute, there has to be an “intent” to cause alarm. They said they had no evidence of that. But they never backed off calling it a “suspicious device”, and most reasonable people agree it was. It does in fact look like a TV or movie bomb. That makes it a suspicious device. Intent is another issue.

Yes, a TV or movie bomb. No doubt. There are several examples of it that have been posted, etc. That’s why he was arrested. It created alarm, that’s enough for an arrest. But they determined there was no evidence it was more than a “naive accident”, so they let him go. The device remains classified as “suspicious”.

i think you might be assuming the case was a full-sized briefcase.

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analog suitcase bomb

suitcase bomb for bombing preschools

combination car bomb and suitcase bomb
http://blog.onlineclock.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/scooby-doo-lunchbox-clock.jpg

hoax bomb

suitcase bomb for use by Muslim girls

oxygenated hydrogen bomb

robotic bomb with remote navigation and activation
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/06/roombadsc05109.jpg

suitcase incitement to create hoax bombs

trunk bomb with temperature stabilization of contents
http://blog.onlineclock.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/clock-radio-beer-cooler.jpg

vintage digital bomb with keypad for device timing and coded lockout

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No, it was a mini pencil case. Still suspicious. Since when does a bomb have to be big?

Irrational bigoted paranoia bomb

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And then there is this. I think the key is it was homemade, and was tied up with a cable, etc. The ones you showed are manufactured products and don’t have cables hanging out of them. If one of the items you displayed had been taken apart and tied back up with cables, the same reaction would happen.

Note on the ones below, one of these is a Toshiba radio. So I guess it’s just a radio at first glance, right? Get some perspective please.

From wikipedia:
“A hoax is a deliberately fabricated falsehood made to masquerade as truth.[1] It is distinguishable from errors in observation or judgment,[1] or rumors, urban legends, pseudosciences or April Fools’ Day events that are passed along in good faith by believers or as jokes.[2]”
There was no hoax. This clock was termed that by the police, not a judge. Police do not determine guilt or innocence.
There was nothing false in this clock except in the fulminating fevered mind of those police and whoever got them involved. It’s a clock …nothing more. If Ahmed is guilty then so am I for using the computer I am writing on right now because it has an internal digital clock that could be a timing device. This very laptop I use was examined by TSA when I took it to France last summer and they were not perturbed in the least. Even when I powered it up per their asking.
And as far as I know clocks are not illegal in schools. Every classroom I ever lectured in had a clock.
Again, it was the police that said it was a hoax TV bomb, not a judge.
FYI here is the clock. Remember that the case is not a full sized suit case but rather a pencil case which means its more than likely 4 X 8 inchs or something along those lines:

The brown patch seen on the lid is the back side of the digital numbers Ahmed built into the lid. One would of necessity have to be paranoid to feel threat from what this kid built. And he has never said it was anything other than a clock.
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There was a cable because the latch was broken. They break sometimes. It’s the way of things. entropy you know. Sometimes a clock is just a clock and a 14 yr old kid is just a 14 yr old kid.

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The teachers called the police, and the police determined it was not a bomb. So why would they call the bomb squad? Seems a bit silly.

Get a life.

I’m sick and tired of these frightened individuals who claim to be Americans but see monsters under every bed and in every closet.

I’m ashamed of them.

Everything’s bigger in Texas? Yeah, especially the cowards.

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And it seems silly they won’t give the kid his “tv bomb” back doesn’t it? I think that’s cuz they will be revealing their absolute stupidity in this case. They want to avoid embarrassing themselves.

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