Discussion: Euphoric After A Good Week, Trump Goes On A Verbal Rampage

My financial advisor raved about his unorthodox methods yesterday and said some people say he deserves a Nobel Prize. I sat there horrified but went back to my office and started paperwork to pull all of my accounts from him.

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I think you mean poll watchers. Pollsters gather data. The data may be of greater or lesser value, depending on the methodology, but data can’t be wrong. It just is. And pollsters, while they may gather misrepresentation data, cannot themselves be wrong about future outcomes because pollsters don’t forecast.

But the thing that really irks me about this meme is that 538’s analysis was never wrong. The poll data itself was never misleading. Nothing whatsoever was “off” in the polling process or analysis except Sam Wang’s methodologically flawed analysis. And the fact that people clung to that flawed analysis because it was what they wanted to hear.

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Plus he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not lose any voters. And the molestation and rape accusations that have been made against him. You could not have a single moral bone in your body and vote for this violent bastard.

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Strictly speaking he’s a Glamour Don’t all over.

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Perhaps your financial advisor is not familiar with the concept of short covering and shorting.
Latest news this morning on first quarter GDP. It was revised down to 2.0 from 2.2.
Lowest consumer spending in five years.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/27/final-reading-on-first-quarter-2018-gdp.html

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“Verbal Rampage”? Oddly enough, for me his diatribe wasn’t any more rampy than his usual Trumphat schtick.

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Good point on terminology, I’ll be more careful. Statistics and probability was a unit in the one math course I had to take in college and I got out of the course and that unit in particular pretty much the way you get out of a burning apartment building in the middle of the night—it wasn’t fun, I didn’t cover myself in glory, but I survived and that’s the main thing. That said, the methodologies are typically imperfect if not flawed or flat wrong. People misunderstand the results anyway. And this election in particular was manipulated and we may never know all the means used or to what extent that influenced the outcome.

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He better have a stroke that cuts off control of his tweetin’ fingers. :smile:

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Baby Cage tRUmp is making me physically and mentally ill.

Beginning to feel despondent and fear greatly for the nation’s (and my children’s’) future stable existence

I don’t think it is a stretch that Kennedy’s retirement will be used make November a referendum on the SC’s future composition, thereby providing motivation for the “base” lunatics

FAWK

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I cannot begin to describe how pissed off I was. He started the small talk by saying, “So Justice Kennedy is retiring and we get to pick another Supreme Court Justice.” I felt my heart rate and my blood pressure both start to go up.

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The manipulation showed up clearly in the polls. That’s why I was unsurprised when Spanky won the election. The analysis on 538 showed the odds to be a coin toss shortly after the third debate. Then Comey tipped the election to Spanky. A bit of that final tipping showed up in the final round of polling. I was fairly sure on election night that Spanky would win. And why? Because I was watching the polls.

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Maybe if you have to listen to it for a living every day the subtle differences emerge, the way the conductor hears things in rehearsal that you and I might not. :smile:

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Daniel Dale, after live tweeting the first third of the diatribe (they are not speeches) opined that Trump seemed to more on message than in SC. Then, of course, things got very weird and Dale was “oh well”.

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And paralyzes his tiny hands. And causes endless drool. That would work for me …especially if no one bothers to concoct his daily combover.

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Yes, he can take his place in history as enabling a fascist and his henchmen.
And to his last day, he should not be able to leave his house without being confronted by that fact. By loud, angry, but peaceful protesters, and hissed at out in public a la the Opera House at the end of Dangerous Liaisons.
Fuck Nancy Pelosi and her “civility”, this is what that has got us.

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You have too much faith in the Republican voter. Trump has brought out their inner Nazi.

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Talking poll results here. And the panicked reaction of Republicans, who also look at polls and listen to phone calls read e-mails etc. I’m not saying this because it’s something I somehow just know.

Too many seem to forget this when talking about the election. Despite all the evidence, even the liberal pundits frame it without this goober. “Hillary did this wrong, Comey did his part, the Deplorables wanted revenge …” blah, blah, blah…what about the meddling? Even here, that discussion often goes on an on without mention that the meddling and cheating were probably the primary reason this unqualified ass sits in the W.H… Maybe Mueller will connect these particular puzzle pieces in such a way that it is more widely acknowledged. A girl can dream.

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Hey Trump!

Russia is bragging that they got you elected. Shady James Comey and the disgraced FBI agents were working on your behalf. Someday there will be a reckoning. Enjoy this week while it lasts, laugh all you want. Winter is coming.

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The data are there and need to be analyzed. Big job. But when the election turned on small numbers of voters in three key states, that’s a hint about where to start looking. Possible scenario: Trump camp takes voter rolls, feeds it to the Russian troll farms via Parscales and Cambridge Analytica, and targets key districts and maybe even particular voters in swing states.

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