Discussion: Don't Believe The GOP's Chicken Little Act Over Insurers Dropping Obamacare

That was a very well written and well sourced article Tierney. The opinions from the numerous health insurance industry specialists were very convincing. Thank you.

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UHC is still feeding at the gov’t trough. They are a major player in that 20% of coverage Medicare doesn’t cover. Some insurance companies take home enormous profit. It boggles me

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Hopefully we will get there as a country. I spent part of yesterday listening to the woes of a 62 yr old female friend. She’s having a tough time getting coverage because of bureaucratic bungling in the ACA and one female employee there who is on an extreme power trip. As I listened I could see how this friend is really forced into the GOPer style of thinking about the ACA. Her battles are excessive and completely unnecessary and caused by ineptitude of ACA employees. But still I give large credit to Mr Obama for fighting the good fight to get the ACA into law and no credit to the GOP for fighting against health care. I’m glad I’ve got Medicare tho. It’s way simpler.

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ACA is forcing Carrier to leave Indiana and move to Mexico is what I heard a RWN say.

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United healthcare has always been a crappy, over-priced insurer. This is good news for the consumer.

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The lesson that Republicans should learn here is that their healthcare plan, which became the ACA, wasn’t the most efficient option.

We all knew that already. Don’t hold your breath waiting for them to announce that they’ve learned that lesson.

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Yes, and in Georgia and Arkansas, two states where they are pulling out, they had previously tried – and failed – to push through big double-digit rate increases.

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Funny how the GOP talks about ACA hindering competition but they never say anything about the sea of anti-trust protections the insurance industry enjoys…

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United Health appears to be too lazy to do the work associated with finding ways to be profitable in this industry. It’s always easier to bitch and whine than to develop and implement real ideas.

And I don’t consider lobbying Congress to be an alternative to doing the real work that’s in front of you.

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$6 billion a year in PROFIT is not enough for a company supposedly in business to care for people??? Gimme a break.

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Clicked the heart and got a quick pop up black box. ???

But I’ve been appealing a hospital stay with UC for almost a year. They are impossible to deal with.

United is pulling out of Louisiana, too; 13% of Louisiana residents will have to find new health insurance. The state insurance commissioner says it does not appear that their withdrawal will cause major problems. Seems to me we received a mailing from the company offering health insurance a short time ago. I guess they didn’t know they were pulling out.

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One of the inherent problems in being a national insurance company is that every state does things completely different. You must file rates and other documentation (evidence of coverage, etc) in every state in which you offer plans for each of those plans and you must wait for approval. This is the time of year when all of those things are due, particularly for ACA certification. It’s entirely possible that UHC fell down on the job. Talking from a national place to all of those regions/states and getting processes in place for all of those regions/states is like turning a battleship. They simply aren’t nimble enough. Hopefully all of this will force them to modernize in a more rapid fashion.

EDIT: The ACA is far more effective than most give it credit. The pressure on big insurers to adapt to changing times is crushing. They simply aren’t structured that way. Part of this is because of our state by state insurance regulatory system. They could have gamed this out, but they figured they didn’t have to.

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Blue Cross Illinois was losing money, so they canceled the plan I had at the end of 2015, leaving me and thousands of other policyholders scrambling to find an equivalent plan. BCBS still offers policies, but doesn’t cover the major Chicago hospitals. The alternatives were Land of Lincoln, which is a cobbled-together cooperative of small insurers and is hobbling along, and Harken, which is a UH spinoff with HMO-style clinics for primary medical care. They cover the hospitals BCBS bailed on. I hope it works. There still wasn’t much to choose from during the enrollment period. I expect more problems this year.
All the more reason for single payer.

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Time for single payer (Medicare for all) like would should have at to begin with.

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the republicons crossed that borderline a looooong time ago around nov 8th 2008

I’m not sure why you think this is a contradiction. I’m sure most of them really are Christians. Calling yourself Christian (or any other label) has little bearing on one’s behavior.

They get all righteous about what the Old Testament says about men sleeping with men in some side note, but one of the Ten Fucking Commandments is “Thou Shalt Not Kill” yet they are big supporters of the death penalty, gleefully so. Turn the other cheek? Their glock says otherwise.

United Health Care was rated the worst Medicare health plan in So. California by Consumer Reports last year.

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Oh yeah. The 11th commandment:" thou shalt not marry thine own kind".
And ignoring “thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor”, and “thou shalt not covet thy neighbors spouse, etc.”,

One would hope, though where I work, a VP who over a year ago spearheaded a massive company-wide failure of an “update” to our software system, from which we still haven’t recovered, just got conspicuously promoted. If there were more justice in the corporate world…

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