Discussion: Documents: Girl, 15, Who Shot Brother, 16, Suffered Abuse For Years

You are right, of course, but I wonder if the State of Florida is up to the task. Seems they have had several chances before this to ask the right questions, but haven’t.

But, based on this story I have to wonder if the state wouldn’t have placed her right back in this hell hole if she had just walked away.

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I’m left to wonder after reading it, if she went to school at all.

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Welcome to America, where prison is a privatized venture in most states and the more people you put away the more money gets made. Capitalism ROOOOOLZ. (/sarcasm)

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I would just like one person from Florida department of children’s services, or whomever should have been paying attention and monitoring this family after the abuse from the uncle, to say they dropped the ball and apologize for that.

They let that girl down. They let her siblings down. I have zero doubts in my mind that this poor child thought this was her last resort and the only way she was going to make this stop. Reading all the repeated failures of Florida law enforcement and the state government to protect these kids is leaving me absolutely nauseated.

I won’t say what I’d like to do to those parents right now. I’m a pacifist except when it comes to abusing kids…that sets off ALL my triggers.

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They bred four victims to be treated like animals who turned on each other at the rankest level of survival. The “parents” are the criminals. Those poor kids. The stuff of nightmares indeed.

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And just where is a 15 year old child going to go, especially with two younger sisters who she apparently was concerned for? This is NOT an adult with life experience, financial and personal resources, etc. to just leave and survive on her own. Doh.

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This is FLORIDA.
The kid just needs to assert she was “Standing her Ground” with the gun.
End of prosecution (as long as she is White.)

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I don’t need to know more to know heads should roll at the local law enforcement, emergency management and social services offices.

But I’m sure Governor Luthor will have an innovative private sector win-win solution for this worked out in no time.

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“Police documents released Wednesday said the girl’s uncle was convicted
of molesting her in 2010. They also say the children’s mother discovered
the siblings having sex in 2011. Authorities and child welfare
officials investigated, but no one was charged.”

And the stupid idiots are trying to figure out what degree of murder to charge them with? Every person who had authority and did nothing need to be charged not the kids.

“The girls’ mother told police they often locked the 15-year-old girl
up when she misbehaved. The longest they kept her locked in her room was
20 consecutive days, the father told police.”

In the girl’s room, police found only a blanket and a bucket filled with urine in the closet.

“It was learned that (the 15-year-old girl) has made past attempts at
ending her life but neither law enforcement nor (emergency management
services) was notified,” police wrote in their report.

And did anyone ask their definition of “misbehaved”? Was it misbehaving because she refused to have sex with her brother? Her father? I don’t think she was only being abused by her brother or her uncle. I bet daddy had some of it himself and maybe she wasn’t grateful enough to him for the favor. I am so disgusted that the kids are getting the blame and the punishment. This is such an evil, devastating thing to do to a child and anyone who molests kids has forfeited their right to live in a civil society. And those who do this to their own children definitely deserve it in spades.

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“I won’t say what I’d like to do to those parents right now. I’m a pacifist except when it comes to abusing kids…that sets off ALL my triggers.”

Mine too. Mine too. It really is just too much.

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Very good question. Did not even think of that.

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We don’t know what else they (people at the relevant government agencies) knew, or which people know it? We don’t know the mother’s definition of “misbehaved”. We don’t know if the girl had some mental illness or deficiency prior to her being sexually abused by her uncle. We don’t know if the girl sexual relationship with her brother was abuse or plain incest. If it was abuse, then was the brother a victim of prior abuse by someone else as well? By whom? Is the father mentioned in the article the biological father of all the kids? How many parents are, or rather, how many parents should be involved? Just how often did the parents leave the kids unattended. Why was the 15 year old the only one locked in the room? Did the other children ever get locked in their room? All those are just of the top of my head.

If were I the person in charge here I would want to chop some heads off. I need a much clearer picture of what exactly was going on before I started chopping. But, don’t get it twisted, eventually, I would start chopping heads off. And first rule of chopping heads off is to get the right one.

A lesson the State of Florida may decide her parents failed to teach her because they did not lock her up for a period long enough to drive her sane.

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Southern trailer trash behaving like southern trailer trash. You can bet this went back a few generations.

Give her back the gun and leave her alone with Mom and Dad for a bit.

that was my first thought… and then once i saw the photo of those girls and their dead eyes, there was no question they’d been subjected to years of abuse and abandonment. one would like to think that the friend’s family would have noticed the mistreatment and said something. that old ‘none of my business’ on full display here…

they deserve sympathy and treatment – and not a fucking prison term.

Who posted pictures of juvenile detainees/rape victims? If they did, that should be illegal.

when this story first broke a couple of days ago, the uk daily mail had the mugshots of the two girls and also had a photo of the brother (who also looked like he’d had his own abused history); but the recent stories have blurred out the faces of the family. the photos were also posted before the accusations of rape.
there are bound to be more horrific details to come.

All four kids were born in deep a hole and given nothing by a broken ladder to pull themselves out with. And the only time that the state intervenes with actions is when they do try to extricate themselves.

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