Have you seen what it costs to fly first class? Have a little sympathy for tall people. Save the emergency row seats for them. I fly coach. When they sell me a ticket it does not say that they can’t seat people who are tall. If that is the case do not take my money. I fly at least ten times a year and I am only asking to be treated with respect and not regarded as some freak of nature because I am 6’ 7".
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I also have another great example/story that in this instance, it was not the large person with the problem, but was the flight attendant.
I was next to large man (had to be 280+) to where I had to put my feet in the aisle to fit in my seat. The FA told me “if you dont put feet in front of you I will hit you with the cart”, i noted that there was no room for my legs to fit due to the gentleman next to me and if there was another seat I would gladly move… No seats available. No resolution.
What happened? The FA, instead of giving me a heads up he was on his way up the aisle, proceeds to hit me with the cart, while the gentleman next to me gave me a heads up that the FA was coming since he was what one would consider a normal human being (unlike many people).
So you get all types if you fly enough. Those who are contrite, understand their size is an inconvenience, and do what they can to make the situation work and those who are just rude and self-entitled.
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You pay for the space above your body. Not for the space above mine.
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Are these issues a problem on foreign carriers also? I wonder how far the race-to-the bottom-line disease has spread?
I feel you - but they do list the sizes when booking, plus, you know this to be an issue given your height.
You could choose to 1) get a airline branded card to get priority seats for free 2) pay the $35-50 upcharge for the seat or 3) hope they have them available when you arrive.
I personally have status and airline card, so, i select the larger seats to allow me to do work without person crushing my laptop. I also have a smaller laptop than i would otherwise use to compensate for these issues as much as possible.
So you have options and are informed, just a matter of what you choose to do with it.
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Passengers who recline their seats paid for that right, and should not be deprived of it just because a tall and/or fat guy is sitting behind them. The solution isn’t recliner disablers, it’s more space between seats — and that’s going to require strict, new, and tenaciously enforced government regulation. The airlines are at fault, not the people who recline in the reclining seats they paid for. It will come as a surprise to the tall and/or fat people, but they don’t have special rights because of their size.
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Geez, who wouldn’t be upset? I certainly agree with you there. But do you take it out on another customer? That doesn’t seem right. If you have a grievance with the contract you entered into with the airline, you seek to resolve it with the airline. I have no problem with people being upset. I do have a problem with people treating others like dirt because of it.
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I wonder too if we’re actually witnessing an increase in personal selfishness or if it just seems like it.
I also wonder to what extent we can call this the Tea-partyization of basic civics.
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This is why I tend to recline the seat as slowly as possible, over the course of perhaps an entire minute, to fool the person behind me into not noticing.
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I’m 6’5" and I endorse this message. When someone reclines their seat, I find that it changes the angle at which the seat back in front of me is touching my knees, but it doesn’t seriously reduce space down there. Yes, it creates slightly less space above the tray, but it’s still enough to accommodate a reasonable laptop or whatever. It’s much more important to me to have the ability to recline back, even a little bit, so that I can sleep (if you’re tall, sleeping in an upright seat is tough because you have a giraffe neck). If the seat can recline, it’s free to be used; airlines can simply ban this incendiary device.
PS: And fuck the airlines for adding more and more seats, and making what used to be free (exit row) a paying thing.
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Well put.
I think they should charge by weight. Big, fat, tall people pay more and get bigger seats. Little shits save money and can fit in the crappy little seats.
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And babies cost an additional $5000 to fly. Free unlimited cocktails for everybody else!
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A coil of piano wire in every seat pocket should discourage these assaults.
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Why don’t they just change the seats so that the bottom of the seat slides forward slanting the back within your own space instead of the back of the seat moving downward into someone else’s space. If you really find it necessary to be rude and recline your seat on top of someone, ask the airlines to make the change to the seat mechanism so that you take away from your own knee space instead of other people’s behind you.
BTW, another annoying thing about airline seats is when everyone is comfy and quiet and dark, and some dumbass decides they need their reading light on. Get an iPad!
Or the person in front of you can be a bit more considerate. I have often asked the person in front of me to please un-recline their seats a bit. Some do immediately with an apology others take a fuck you attitude. My response is; fine go through life being an inconsiderate ass hole it’s OK by me.
And not to nit pick if that is what charlieE was saying he didn’t do a very good job of it.
How about YOU fly first class?
This means war!
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I don’t understand people behaving this way. If you fly economy class, it’s crowded. It’s crowded for everyone. I’ve flown a lot, and I would never resort to a knee defender or a verbal or physical altercation on a flight. I once flew from the UK to the West Coast of North America seated in front of a man who was about 6’7". His knees were in my back for much of the flight. The flight was completely booked. It wasn’t his fault. I felt sorry for him crammed in such a small seat, but I didn’t confront him, or try to restrict him. I just sucked it up and got through the flight. I survived the flight just fine.
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I have a routine for those who won’t put their seats back up… the tray goes up and down about 25 times, you constantly dig in the pocket for magazines, press your knees into their seat over and over, and breath heavily (or better yet, cough a lot) right over their heads. Hopefully they’ll get the picture for not complying nicely.
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