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Bravo, ladies, for not opening that door!!!
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We’ve all felt lonely of isolated at sometime in our lives. But we don’t react in this way.
The shooter obviously felt entitled to pursue others and kill them just like George Zimmerman. These Stand Your Ground laws have added yet another layer of dysfunction to an already dysfunctional society that is ruled by guns, a video game mentality, the Bush Doctrine, Affluenzia, racial profiling and social media bullying.
What this kid needed was real socialization through a meaningful job and volunteer work where he could make real friends and help others less fortunate than himself. Guns, blogs, video games and wealth are poor substitutes for meaningful human interaction.
When society values the Rich and Famous instead of the least among us, it becomes so corrupted that the weak and mentally unstable have no idea what is normal. Passing laws that encourage this confusion is totally irresponsible.
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Everyone dropped the ball where this killer was concerned. But most amazingly the police had a chance to investigate and didn’t. He was polite. Case closed. Had he been black they would have found some flimsy excuse to enter the apartment. Police enter the apartments of black nonsuspects all the time. From Albuquerque to NYC police find no reason at all to shoot and kill people of color or the poor, but this Rodgers kid get a free pass because of his address and his race. He should have been committed years ago. Did his dad think a BMW would cure all his woes? I am so sick of this country, the guns, and police incompetence.
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What he needed was to be institutionalized years ago. His parents knew he had problems from day one. His grandmother certainly talked about him as being always disturbed. The rich think they’re above the law and that they can thrown money and BMWs at their children and all will be fixed. Why was he able to buy guns?
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As the NRA says, if only this boy had access to rocket-propelled-grenades and landmines, then he and everyone else would have been really polite that night.
Remember, as the GOP claims the constitution requires: no restrictions on guns, at anytime to anyone and in any form, and everyone will be safe.
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“Denied again…” Really. It doesn’t sound like he was “denied” a first time. The kid was totally in his head, a totally unreliable narrator.
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I’ve known men like Rodger - the only difference being that they were not murderous. To a person, they all had the same notion that women were ignoring how “gentlemanly” each of them was in favor of men that these people looked down upon. They never seemed to be aware that their anger and bitterness were all on the outside and were precisely the things that drove women away.
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Total freedom without any restrictions leads to excesses whether it’s in our personal lives, corporation actions, tax sheltering or campaign financing. You’d think conservatives would be conservative in their attitudes.
Quite the opposite in this country which apparently is what’s wrong.
A little understanding to get to know others different than you, paying your fair share of taxes instead of cheating, restricting pollution for the good of all, and extending a helping hand to your countrymen (or at least investing back inside your own nation) to create middle class standard of living jobs for everyone on an equal opportunity basis would go a long ways toward to fixing what the Republicans broke in the last 45 years since Reaganomics got it all wrong.
A group home where he had to interact with others on a daily basis and learn appropriate behavior would have been better. He never learned how to make friends as a support group or realize that he wasn’t the center of the universe. It’s costly and a big government solution but it works. You’d think the rich would want someone to take care of their “problems” for them.
People here are quick to judge the parents. From what I read they tried very hard to get him psychological counselling and were the driving force behind the police checking on him in the first place.
This guy was of legal age, there was no way the parents could have him committed. Trying to alert the police and pleading with him to seek treatment was pretty much the only recourse at this point.
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I’ve known men like Rodger - the only difference being that they were not murderous. …They never seemed to be aware that their anger and bitterness were all on the outside and were precisely the things that drove women away.
Yeah, I think there probably is a small but not insubstantial number of young men who have thoughts of that nature during at least a brief period of their hormone-dominant years.
But, there is an enormous gap between the many who feel such bitterness and anger and the very small number who use it as justification for destroying as much of the world as they are able to.
Rodger clearly was a victim of mental illness. It seems to this amateur that his actions were not really an extreme version of the anger and bitterness you describe, but, instead, that his frustration and his desperation to have satisfying relationships with women became the easiest channel for his illness to express itself.
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If the police had taken the time to do a background check on his postings online that triggered his mother wondering if he was ok once the officers did a welfare check they should have requested to look into the apartment at a time when his roommates were there and interview those who live in the apartment. As for the NRA and the politicians who swore an allegiance to the gunmanufactors, if the GOP and some Dems were not so afraid of guns themselves they would have voted on a background check for mental illness and that could have deterred him from acquiring the weapons. I still have questions about his roommates?
I’ve also known this type. They complain that no woman wants them, but they ignore the quality women (and this isn’t a comment about attractiveness) who are all around them. They only want the “10” that they think will impress the other men, because that’s what this is really about.
I knew a guy (a sales rep) who had just relocated to California, young, good looking and he complained that he couldn’t meet any women. A male coworker and I set him up informally with an attractive, smart architect from the mid-west thinking they’d hit it off. The whole time we were out (we went out as a group to make it an easy blind date) he turned around and blatantly checked out the cocktail waitresses and complained they never looked at him because THEY were so superficial. It all worked out though, my male friend fell for the architect and they dated. The other guy I wrote off, even in the friend sense, because it was so over the top rude. I’m sure he thought he was “nice”, too.
Spoken like a true gent, huh? SMH
If money is free speech, why not bullets? He was just expressing his Constitutionally protected opinion.