Discussion: Dems Sue Trump Allies, Russians, Over 2016 Election Meddling

A friend referred to me as “vintage” the other day, as well as to himself, so at the rate of progress this project is making, I may not be around.

As of March 2018, it has been adopted by ten states and the District of Columbia. Together, they have 165 electoral votes, which is 30.7% of the total Electoral College and 61.1% of the votes needed to give the compact legal force.

In the absence of even-handed congressional oversight, lawsuits seem to be the flavor of the month for shedding a little light on things.

I don’t know how it will turn out, but on first blush I’m happy to see this particular lawsuit. I particularly enjoy the role reversal – watching a deep-pocketed plaintiff grind down Trump’s over-matched minions.

I’ll be even happier if it turns out the DNC has a comprehensive media plan for keeping this on the front page through the mid-terms and beyond. It would be good to see something other than Trump’s tweets.

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He says he didn’t steal the election. On prior form this is pretty good evidence that he did.

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Great summary. Thank you.

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If Josh Marshall was a journalist instead of an historian he might be bothered to put up a stink about a political party suing a news organization for publishing news.

Can or does?

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Indeed. This cannot go unanswered.

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Personally I think many of us will find it necessary before long to reign in our blog time, in the interest of keeping our sanity. Besides messing with our brains, it entails sitting for long periods of time and staring glassy eyed at the computer.

Sour grapes?

A) Trump already played that card

B) It’s part of the conman’s repertoire to try and make the victim too embarrassed to fight back

And

C) since when is going to the law about a theft sour grapes?

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Wrong preposition.

Standing up to Trump will probably attract at least as many independents as it turns off.

The DOJ, I’m thinking Rosenstein or one of his deputies. Not Congress because they didn’t have them until the Rs forced their release last night (and then promptly leaked them (my assumption)).

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But what about John Does 1-10? That will keep us guessing.

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That’ll work like a charm …just until Mueller gets fired.

This is as unrealistic as President Obama’s initial belief in Republican bipartisanship.

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The GOP were already framing it as the Dems trying to impeach Trump.

We might as well tell the voters whymthat is a good idea.

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There is also the stark contrast between his feeling that revealing the investigation of the possible connection between the Trump campaign and Russia woukd have been brutally unfair whereas releasing this nothing burger of more emails and calling it reopening an investigation 11 days out was simply an attempt to preserve Hillary’s legitimacy as President.

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Apparently Tom Perez misheard that old saying “When your enemy is falling, don’t stand in his way.”

Perez apparently thought it said, “When your enemy is falling, make sure you get under him so you can take credit for him falling down.”

(I truly want to believe that November is going to be good for us, but then I remember that Tom Perez is leading the effort and then I get this really tight feeling in the bottom of my stomach.)

Sorry that seeing the GOP being kicked when it is already down in the gutter upsets you.

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The DNC’s property in the form of emails was stolen by the Russian hackers and then used by the Trump campaign to harm the DNC and the candidates it supported. That Trump and Trump campaign knew that they were receiving stolen property is evident from the Republican candidates’ gleeful “I love Wikileaks” public statements. Trump even announced in advance that Wikileaks was dumping the data showing foreknowledge and a link between Wikileaks/Russians and the Trump campaign. .

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Very well reasoned.

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