Discussion: Dems Sue Trump Allies, Russians, Over 2016 Election Meddling

This picture is missing an intellectual heavyweight like Kloe Kardassian to complete it.

If you say so. Mind telling me how you are going to fit everyone the heck else in 23 chairs

O - derp - characters, not chairs. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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Most everyone wants to amend the Constitution in order to get rid of the EC, but you can see from this article, it’s been tried over and over again, and with no success. This Congress in particular doesn’t have the will for the sustained effort it would take and neither do the 38 red states.

it’s very difficult to amend the Constitution, requiring an organized, concerted effort to keep the proposed change on the agenda in Congress. The amendment process requires even more than that, though; after a proposed amendment passes in Congress, it has to be approved by three-fourths of the states. (There’s an alternate path to amending the Constitution, but it’s even more arcane.) And enough states are made more influential in the Electoral College that they wouldn’t be on board with a constitutional change.

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Here’s a hint: Hire Michael Avenatti to represent the DNC lawsuit. Imagine all the free ant-Trump advertisement as the networks trip over each other to book him.

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Ah; I am now revealed as a programmer. Sorry… jargon I don’t even hear as jargon anymore.

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That’s just EVIL. I salute you.

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Sweetheart, you could just rely on my terrible eyesight - that’s what I figured had caused my confusion.

:joy:

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Since we are OT about Comey, this is why I don’t like the guy (from his book):

"I had assumed from media polling that Hillary Clinton was going to win. I have asked myself many times since if I was influenced by that assumption. I don’t know. Certainly not consciously but I would be a fool to say it couldn’t have had an impact on me.

“It is entirely possible that, because I was making decisions in an environment where Hillary Clinton was sure to be the next president, my concern about making her an illegitimate president by concealing the restarted investigation bore greater weight than it would have if the election appeared closer or if Donald Trump were ahead in the polls. But I don’t know.”

C’mon. Comey doesn’t know a lot about what is spinning around his head, yet he is supposed to be this Boy Scout (former) Republican intellect. He knew damn well what he was doing by announcing a further FBI investigation 10 days before the election.

Whatever happened to “the FBI does not comment on active investigations”? and DOJ traditional guidelines that “being sensitive about what information is released about pending or active investigations in the days and weeks leading up to the election.” Comey threw it out the window in order to throw the election.

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Changing the Constitution isn’t the only way to make this happen - there’s also the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. Last I checked, they were something over 60% of the way there:

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A friend referred to me as “vintage” the other day, as well as to himself, so at the rate of progress this project is making, I may not be around.

As of March 2018, it has been adopted by ten states and the District of Columbia. Together, they have 165 electoral votes, which is 30.7% of the total Electoral College and 61.1% of the votes needed to give the compact legal force.

In the absence of even-handed congressional oversight, lawsuits seem to be the flavor of the month for shedding a little light on things.

I don’t know how it will turn out, but on first blush I’m happy to see this particular lawsuit. I particularly enjoy the role reversal – watching a deep-pocketed plaintiff grind down Trump’s over-matched minions.

I’ll be even happier if it turns out the DNC has a comprehensive media plan for keeping this on the front page through the mid-terms and beyond. It would be good to see something other than Trump’s tweets.

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He says he didn’t steal the election. On prior form this is pretty good evidence that he did.

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Great summary. Thank you.

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If Josh Marshall was a journalist instead of an historian he might be bothered to put up a stink about a political party suing a news organization for publishing news.

Can or does?

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Indeed. This cannot go unanswered.

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Personally I think many of us will find it necessary before long to reign in our blog time, in the interest of keeping our sanity. Besides messing with our brains, it entails sitting for long periods of time and staring glassy eyed at the computer.

Sour grapes?

A) Trump already played that card

B) It’s part of the conman’s repertoire to try and make the victim too embarrassed to fight back

And

C) since when is going to the law about a theft sour grapes?

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Wrong preposition.

Standing up to Trump will probably attract at least as many independents as it turns off.

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