Based on recent history and the current methods of the Republican Party, Iâd personally be shocked if they donât immediately go nuclear to ensure they get their guy on the court as soon as possible.
Yes, that could backfire on them in the future. But I donât think Republicans intend to be the minority party again in the future, so Iâm not sure how much âdown the lineâ consequences are entering their calculus anymore.
Demanding fairness, and pointing out how the Republicans blocked Garland, is hardly ârevenge.â
Republicans claimed the Supreme Court would work fine with eight justices, so filibuster away.
Deep analysis.
Our new motto should be âEight is enough.â
I am actually torn. Just because Republicans did something doesnât mean that we, as Democrats (who are inherently more go-along-to-get-along than the GOP), should do that same. Thatâs like saying that we should torture prisoners because ISIS tortures prisoners. I no more want the Republican Party as my point of reference than I want ISIS.
That said, the manner in which this seat remained open for Trump is reprehensible. It was, literally and figuratively, stolen from President Obama. That MUST have consequences.
I believe the correct position is this: announce that this particular seat will remain open. No hearings, no compromise. State clearly that Democrats are doing so because of the manner in which Mitch McConnell conducted himself after Scaliaâs death. Than, at the same time, announce that any FUTURE openings will be businss as usual. Hearings, a committee vote, etc. Donât let McConnell off the hook, but donât gum up the Senate forever.
McConnell will then have to decide, in light of an upcoming midterm election with what is likely to be an enormously unpopular president, if he wants to go nuclear. He knows better than anyone that if Trump is toxic and he loses seats, Democrats can stop everything with just 51 votes, should he eliminate the filibuster. He wrote an autobiography called âThe Long Game.â I believe thatâs what he plays. Iâm not convinced heâll eliminate the filibuster.
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Mr Nye could be wrong, but I believe heâs probably correct.
I donât think Republicans intend to be the minority party again in the future
And theyâre systematically eroding democratic institutions to be sure this happens and having Gorsuch on the Court will help with this.
Probably not. Theyâre Democrats, the âwhen they go low, we go highâ cowards, capitulators, and enablers.
This is another chance for them to âgo highâ while we get screwed.
But be sure to send your money to the DNC!
Dems canât do a thing but highlight what this fascist will do at the confirmation hearings. Too bad, but non-voters and 3rd party fools brought us here, and they too will be hurt.
Right out of the gate, the assholery begins. Youâve barely even had time to glue googly eyes onto your latest sock puppet.
I vote go for broke. Give 'em hell at every opportunity. Make them just as miserable as possible. (I know, they couldnât be a more miserable group of curs to begin with.)
Letâs not forget that whatever Rethugliklans do they are going to own lock, stock and barrel. Make them earn their place in hell. (Just kidding, they confirmed that reservation a long, long time ago.)
Fax your Senators!
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Itâs also worth noting that the entire federal bureaucracy is essentially anti-Drumpf, which has to make the Greed Old Pricks very nervous.
This is why Democrats lose elections: they allow themselves to be rolled by Republicans.
The operative question should be: What would the Republicans do if the roles were reversed?
The answer is obvious.
The Democrats will never win if they play by a different set of rules than the Republicans.
If the Republicans nuke the filibuster, it is gone for good. It will not come back when the Democrats regain power, as they will eventually. And good riddance. Requiring super majorities to get anything done ultimately benefits conservatives who are more interested in blocking change than promoting it.
Without the filibuster, we would have had single payer health care, or at least I so believe. Without the filibuster, the Democrats would have had no place to hide; with it, they could hide behind Republican obstructionism.
Similarly, as the filibuster dies piece by piece, the Democrats will find it easier to implement effective changes the day they regain power. They can start by raising the number of justices from 9 to 15.
Right after Merrick Garland gets his shot.
Stolen? Obama could have recess appointed Garland, a pretty center right pick to begin with. Like the ACA another three dimensional chess play on Obamaâs part. Guess what 3-D chess is worthless when the Republican Party takes a huge dump on the chessboard. The Dems need to use every tool in their power and then make a few up to resist these fascists at every turn. Iâm talking cut power to the Senate floor if you have to. Nail all the doors shut. Difi has already rolled over and is showing her belly as usual, so I expect some hand wringing and maybe a sternly worded letter or two, but this Scalia clone will not be blocked by the Dems.
When it comes to the senatorial seats and election of the POTUS, I use as my benchmark, who gets to put the justices on the SCOTUS that I feel will best serve this country. All other issues get trumped by this one. For all those folks who went third party, sat home, or Republicans who âwent back homeâ, you reap what you sow.
When this country needs measured decision making coming from knowledgeable jurists and gets party indoctrinated hacks, please donât go whining about how horrible things are. Actions have consequences.
Another OT⌠from my neck of the woods. This will more than likely fall under the category of unintended consequencesâŚworks for me.
They dont intend to out of power. They are and will be the minority party. Goodbye democracy.
If you dont use the fili to oppose Gorsuch outnof fearbof the nuclear option, exactly what are you saving the filibuster for, a nominee from trump uni school of law? Especially after what they did to Garland, som tit for tat absolutely is in order.
The really hilarious legacy of the Green Party? The destruction of our environment via Roberts, Alito, and Gorsuch.
non-voters and 3rd party fools brought us here, and they too will be hurt.
Whether heâs a sock puppet or not, this statement is correct.