Discussion: Data Clashes With Emotion As CPAC Immigration Panel Goes Off The Rails

Or confusing them with Ted Nugent.

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Confused has nothing to do with it. These people will just not let facts get in the way of their ignorance, hatred, fear and prejudices. I mean if support for Donald Trump by Evangelicals proved anything it is that ā€œValuesā€ in front of the word voter is and has always been code for race.

That said, there is no way these racist misogynist xenophobic religious bigoted hypocrites will ever support any candidate who does not look, talk and thing like them even that candidates real goal is to pick their pocket of wages, clean air, water and health care.

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Cato is more libertarian and mixes some decent things along with their economic batshittery. Heritage is just a flaming garbage pile, all the more so since Jim DeMint’s time there.

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I’m going to give credit where credit is due to the folks from Cato, although their sense of self-preservation may be a bit impaired.

There is no compensation in the world that could get me to get up and explain the benefits of immigration to this crowd. I’m an old, fat white guy so you’d think I’d blend in, but I think I’d be the one in the woods, with the rest of CPAC chanting ā€œsqueal like a piggy, boy!ā€

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Drunken CPAC attendees don’t fornicate in the woods. They just pee and throw up there when they’re drunk. They fornicate with each other in their hotel rooms. Apparently this is a big draw for young conservatives.

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    ā€œThere’s always a very large contingent most passionate about immigration

I’d have preferred ’ ignorant ’ … as a verb choice ,… myself –

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The hilarity of thinking ā€œfactsā€ will persuade them is, um, hilarious.

Unfortunately, facts seldom work to convince people. It takes time. This is a common issue for other areas of public policy, science, and public health.

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Some of my happiest memories involved fornicating and/or defecating in the woods.

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I think deplorable is the technical term.

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Who needs facts and data when they have their own anecdotal ā€œevidenceā€ of obvious laziness and bad behavior of immigrants filtered through their racially distorted lens?

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ā€œThe data is the thing that’s going to win people over,ā€ he said. He said that after going to CPAC for the last six years??

Well-meaning I’m sure, but not sure he is the brightest bulb.

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Don’t confuse them with facts. Their minds are already made up.

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This must be why Schlatt Mapp doesn’t allow guns at CPAC.

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"Still, speaking to TPM after the panel wrapped up, Bier said he still believes in the power of facts and research to convince conservatives of the benefits of immigration. "

So in the end, the heckler was right: he IS a dreamer.

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Honestly, if I was this guy, I’d have waited until one of the elected officials on the panel was giving me shit, and then responded with ā€˜The numbers don’t lie—politicians do’ and then just throw the crowd the horns and peace on out.

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I believe that is Gailard Sartain on the left, known to many who grew up in the 1970s within the broadcast area of Channel 6 in Tulsa.

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The people of CPAC are studied in ignorance. To them truth is only what they want to believe and that fits their very perverse world view. And these are the people who want to rule the country and the world. G-d help us if they prevail.

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Hopefully not simultaneously?

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Not just Tulsa…

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Sounds like there needs to be a new republican party. Call it whatever name you like. And they surely won’t be able to organize before the midterms, and or likely, even 2020. But reading about these angry, ignorant haters who shouted down legitimate statistics, from one of their very OWN, does not speak optimistically for the future of the republican party, as it is currently comprised. The moderates, the conservative intellectuals, and those who called themselves "Never Trump"ers, are going to need a new political home. You cannot change these people. They’ve always been here among us, just well-hidden. Now they feel emboldened and have come out of the shadows to stalk the earth.

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