Discussion: Dan Rather To Hawkish Pundits: Send Your Kids To War Or 'Don't Even Talk To Me' (VIDEO)

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Damn Straight! Thank You Mr. Rather.

This is just what the “New Democratic” armchair warriors need to hear.

John Brennan and Hillary Clinton have children that could probably use a little taste of war. I’m sure they are planning on enlisting any day now.

To keep us safe.

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If you’d read the article?
You’d have noticed that Dan Rather was speaking of journalists.

But in your usual frenzy to denounce Hillary Clinton at every turn?
I appreciate that you at least tried to camouflage your venom with the sundry addition of John Brennan’s name.

Thanks for that.

jw1

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…and the “anything to bash Hillary” spam-a-thon begins.

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You tell those Republican war pigs, Dan.

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Nah. Dan was talking about ANYONE who is on TV pushing for war. It’s right there in print.

Any journalist or politician pushing for was should be offering up their kids to prove their patriotism. If that was our policy, there would be a whole lot fewer wars.

My first question to anyone who is on television saying, "We have to get tough, we need to put boots on the ground and we need to go to war in one of these places" is, I will hear you out if you tell me you are prepared to send your son, your daughter, your grandson, your granddaughter to that war of which you are beating the drums. If you aren’t, I have no patience with you, and don’t even talk to me.

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You’re threadjacking again with the thinnest of gruel.
Neither ‘politician’ nor ‘politicians’ were the subject of Rather’s remarks no matter how badly you’d like them to be.

As a matter of fact the headline is even more succinct:
Dan Rather To Hawkish Pundits: Send Your Kids To War Or ‘Don’t Even Talk To Me’

You should seek help for your obsession with all things Hillary Clinton. And Snowden

jw1

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The language he uses is very clear - anyone means anyone.

If you don’t like it, that’s just too bad.

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We became the world’s primary imperial power when we did away with the draft. Our civilian leaders, many of whom like Dick Cheney had other priorities when they were young, don’t have any skin in the war game. They don’t have to worry about being held responsible for the deaths of the kids of people they know. That makes it easy for them to decide to send young men and women, volunteers all, off to war. Why not, war American style has become for our arm chair media “generals” nothing more than a giant video game, becoming even more video game like with drones delivering devastating weapons with no risk to anyone on our side.

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Yup.

Come on Down, Chickenhawks!

I’m looking at YOU…Chuck Hagel, John Brennan, Ben Rhodes.

Let’s get some SKIN in the game. YOUR skin.

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Chuck Hagel served with distinction. I don’t know about the other guys.

Brennan is an old CIA hand, not military, but he has a lot of experience in the middle east.

Ben Rhodes is a white house staffer.

The civilian leaders I am talking about are the NeoCon warhawks who continually push for war, any war.

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Maybe it’s time for his son and daughter to sign up. After all…

"This is beyond anything that we’ve seen. So we must prepare for everything. And the only way you do that is take a cold, steely, hard look at it and get ready.”

Beyond anything we’ve seen?

Yeah, I think that qualifies as “bad enough to enlist your children”

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It’s OK Ron.
It’s a flaccid attempt to CHOA-- because you used Dick Cheney’s name in your post.
It was her: “See, see-- I’m am too right! – moment.”

Factual aspects about Chuck Hagel be damned.

jw1

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A “staffer”?

WASHINGTON — As President Obama prepares to visit Israel next week, he is turning, as he often does, to Benjamin J. Rhodes, a 35-year-old deputy national security adviser with a soft voice, strong opinions and a reputation around the White House as the man who channels Mr. Obama on foreign policy.

Here’s Ben sounding as hyperbolic as Dick Cheney on a bad day:

“Absolutely,” Rhodes answered. “When you see somebody killed in such a horrific way, that represents a terrorist attack. That represents a terrorist attack against our country and against an American citizen.”

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He’s talking about the Sunday morning gas bags who talk about “doing something”, we know who they are and what they want to do and it doesn’t involve their children.

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I realize that.

He’s also addressing ANY gasbag on TV advocating for war.

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Specifically as to ISIL, some wars need to be fought, but I have no way to judge if this is one of them, because I have no trust in our war drum beltway media. That is one of the problems when, like John McCain or Lindsey Graham, you cry wolf all the time and the beltway media continues to take you seriously. At some point nobody trusts you to tell the truth.

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“Kristol dismissed the argument as a “very cute line.””

How petty.

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Bravo, Mr. Rather.

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