Discussion: Cruz On Transgender Troops: Military Not 'Cauldron For Social Experiments'

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Yet somehow he’s OK with using politics as an experiment for testing the limits of how insane a politician can be and still be considered fit to hold public office.

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Texas Senator Ted Cruz, when informed of flagging Allied efforts against the Nazis in the Mediterranean theater, nevertheless remained opposed to the introduction of the Tuskegee Airmen into the battle.
“How about having the military focusing on hunting down and killing the bad guys…instead of treating it as this crucible for social justice innovations,” the presidential candidate said at a campaign event in Iowa, according to the Washington Post. “We’ve lost sight of what their job is and that’s what we need to get back to.”

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Were he alive and in the Senate back in 1948 he’d be saying, “We shouldn’t have black and white troops in the same outfits. The Military is not a cauldron for social experiments!”

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he would’ve opposed an integrated service and even tho he doesn’t come right out and say it he probably opposes women in combat roles…

you know… war on LGBT OK but no war on women (out loud)

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I was thinking just about the same thing.

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If you don’t mind I am going to borrow this comment. It is perfect.

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And, Mr. Cruz, the U.S. Senate is not a playpen for your infantile and self-serving behavior.

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And Truman’s social experiment by desegregating the armed forces, the horror. Cruz is a jerk.

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Campaigns relentlessly poll talking points, refining messaging, tailoring it to the voters needed to succeed in primaries. Cruz is merely saying what his base voters want to hear, what they’re receptive to, what they agree with. Yes, Cruz is a jerk. Accepting that it becomes implicit those supporting him are also jerks. Ire on the left can focus on the xenophobic, homophobic, misogynistic and racists words of GOP candidates. More troubling are the 50 million GOP voters avidly in agreement with those words.

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And military discipline and readiness has just been crushed since DADT was repealed, right? I mean, its hardly even survived the desegregation of the troops and allowing women to serve in the military–horror of horrors!

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No, but it HAS had to get back up to speed since being hollowed-out by chicken-hawk Republicans who believed the lives of service members were the same as lives in video games, and viewed every bit of the military’s infrastructure primarily as a means of awarding no-bid/no-show contracts to their corporate clients.

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The military is still reeling from the introduction of tanks and machine guns. What ever happened to horses and rifles?

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“We shouldn’t view the military as a cauldron for social experiments,” he said.

You mean, like, regime change?

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and of course, that stupid fuck is lying. the military has frequently been a leading institution regarding ‘social experiments’… from racial integration to expanding the role of women beyond office clerks to the point where they are now critical to the mission; gays can now serve without fear of being discharged; and now the next is the acceptance of transgender people.

obviously there is still resistance, but at the core, the policies have changed and the military is in the forefront of making those changes.

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And a Navy that has aircraft! It still makes the blood go cold–where are where are the battleships?

I fear that the snark would be lost of Cruz, just as most topics seem to be lost on Cruz.

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A very important post. ESPECIALLY the last sentence.

Maher, Stewart, Colbert, Noah…etc.

All securely able humourists. But, as Former U.S. Senator Simpson observed to Maher years ago:

“THOSE PEOPLE YOU ARE RIDICULING VOTE.”

He should also have added:

“Your people laugh and snark a lot, but they stay away from the Voting Booth”

But, you know…why would he? Why not just keep the status quo:

Imbeciles voting in copious amounts…the “sane” ones either too lazy or too afflicted with “Perfect-The-Enemy-Of-The-Good” perspective

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And the kicker? Trans people could serve in the military for quite some time. It wasn’t until we got some really transphobic people pushing anti-trans policies in this country that the rules changed. And that’s the thing- it’s rules not laws that are being changed.

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Every war is a social experiment.

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I remember years ago when we were socially experimenting with whether we’d let gay people serve their god-damn country, I heard an interview with iirc a special forces guy. He said there was a guy on the squad who was gay, everyone knew, nobody cared, he was a big, smart, tough guy who was really good at killing the people on the other team. They were glad to have him around, simple as that, end of story. So let’s just let the military folks decide for themselves, Cruz, you toxic mucus-slimed slug.