Discussion: Comey: Kavanagh Background Probe 'Not As Hard As Republicans Hope It Will Be'

When interviewing the guys from Prep, one thing to look at is who signed the July letter & who signed the more recent letter.
There are some guys who are still in his social circle and others who are not…I’d zero in on the latter. And take what the former say w/ a grain of salt (or assess if they participated in some of the less savory activities)

I can’t imagine they are not unsettled by what he did to Chris Garrett who was a good friend of his (and who signed the first letter) and theirs. And some might decide to talk.
And I wonder if some of the Renate Alumnius are not mortified (and embarrassed/remorseful) that this has been made public, possibly causing them some discomfort professionally/socially where they are now. (I know of at least one of these people who I believe is squirming.) None of them get a big shiny seat on the SC at the end of this. So, I wonder if they would be willing to fess up about this to the agents.
I also wonder if any of those who might have participated in drugging and gang raping passed out girls might not be worried about their own criminal liability…BK’s SC nomination/ambition has really exposed some of his friends (not that they don’t deserve to be held accountable if they participated in this). I mean, the calendar, the yearbook…it’s not just Mark Judge’s book & his girlfriend.
I wonder if we are in Lord of the Flies territory now.
Will Judge be Piggy or will someone else?

9 Likes
25 Likes

“There was a lot of vomit in the bathroom. No one ever cleaned it up. It was disgusting. It wasn’t incidental. It wasn’t, ‘Oh, this weekend someone puked in the bathroom.’ People were constantly puking in the bathroom. Constantly.”

5 Likes

Exactly. What is the WH going to do when the FBI reports that they spoke to twenty people, all of whom contradicted Kavanaugh’s account of event X? Tell them to “take it back?”

6 Likes

I think his oped is the opening salvo, or battle cry, of the FBI. You can bet there is a lot of smart, hard working and very motivated agents ready and more than willing to take this on. Forget about the quiet go about their business approach. It’s time to kick some ass. I’m a pacifist liberal at heart but enough already. This shit is stressing me out!

5 Likes

There are many statutes, both State and Federal, that pertain to it being illegal to
NOT report crimes — And in the course of performing a background check …
I’m sure that many things are sure to come up… both mundane … and of interest —

Let’s not forget … that the FBI is a part of the Intelligence Community …
It is not in their nature to just forget about it … or to not ’ pry ’ …when they find things loose —

As far as the report … expect it to include only the information required
under their mandate — It will not include anything else —
If there is other information of interest.regarding different areas … depending
on it’s criminality … it will either be held close for future use … or passed
directly to the relevant authority as required by law, for enforcement ----

If an active crime is suspected … they will step back and seek warrants or subpoenas to proceed … But remember …this is a background check
of a sitting Judge … so I doubt they are going to find dead bodies in his
garden … or ??? , maybe ? ? ? …

2 Likes

Offenders usually have pretty clear memories of these events because they are significant for them also. Which is part of why they so often defend themselves very vigorously, often to the point of excess, as in this case here. In fact, the memory of the event is often painful for them also, especially because it never accomplishes for them what they really want to achieve.

As well, in my experience excessive drinking is often enhanced by the desire of the drinker to appear drunker than he really is, so as to be able to justify other behaviors that he would normally be unwilling to engage in.

I discovered that as a Resident Assistant on a freshman floor in college. It made it a lot easier for me to insist they clean up after themselves after a night out.

This was also reinforced by the testimony of an abuser who described an incident when his wife decided to “go out with the girls.” He knew he couldn’t prohibit her from going, but immediately began planning how he would ambush her afterwards and began drinking to work up the “courage” to follow through on his plan when she returned.

@mattinpa

3 Likes

https://mobile.twitter.com/NicholsUprising/status/1046553343466893312

60 Minutes: “If #BrettKavanaugh is shown to have lied to the committee, nomination’s over?”

Jeff Flake: “Oh, yes.”

Chris Coons: “I would think so.”

Brett Kavanaugh lied to the committee. Repeatedly.

This is not an unresolved or debatable point.

12 Likes

If this is the NY Field Office aren’t they the same assholes that fed info to Rudy?

Probably not all of them.

1 Like

Witness? “Material fact”?

If #BrettKavanaugh is shown to have lied to the committee, nomination’s over?”

Checkout Charles Ludington an associate professor of history at North Carolina State University.

September 30, 2018, 4:58 PM PDT | Bloomberg Link

//snippet//

Drinking Habits

Democratic Senator Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota said on CNN that she’s concerned the White House will micromanage the investigation. Questions about Kavanaugh’s drinking are relevant, she said in a second interview on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” and shouldn’t be off-limits, as some news reports have suggested.

//snip//

Klobuchar had a heated exchange with Kavanaugh during the hearing, in which she asked the federal judge whether he’d ever been blackout drunk. “I don’t know,” he said. “Have you?” Kavanaugh later apologized.

“I was really stunned by how he acted,” she said on CNN. “This is a -- basically a job interview for the highest court of the land.”

Kavanaugh’s characterization of his alcohol use in high school, at university and beyond was a big factor in Thursday’s Senate hearing and in an interview the judge gave last week to Fox News.

‘Deeply Troubled’

A former Yale classmate came forward on Sunday to challenge Kavanaugh’s account, and said he’d provided similar information to the FBI.

“I have become deeply troubled by what has been a blatant mischaracterization by Brett himself of his drinking at Yale,” Charles Ludington said in a statement. “When Brett got drunk, he was often belligerent and aggressive.” In one instance, Ludington said, Kavanaugh threw a beer into a man’s face and started a fight.

“In denying the possibility that he ever blacked out from drinking, and in downplaying the degree and frequency of his drinking, Brett has not told the truth,” said Ludington, an associate professor of history at North Carolina State University.

======
~OGD~

10 Likes

I don’t think he knew what it meant because he said to Sen. Blumethal, “You can probably say it better than I can.”

3 Likes

I wish I could have liked your post more. Thanks!

I get the feeling that this is just the beginning. The dam is leaking profusely. Complete structural failure is eminent. Can’t wait to see that whiny privileged ass wipe and his GOP enablers exposed for the frauds they are.

Yeah, I know, but feeling optimistic today.

4 Likes

In the NYT editorial Comey also says:

the F.B.I. is now being asked to investigate, on a seven-day clock, sexual assaults that the president says never happened, that some senators have decried as a sham cooked up to derail a Supreme Court nominee, and that other senators believe beyond all doubt were committed by the nominee.

No senator has claimed that they believe beyond all doubt in Kavanaugh’s guilt. In fact no one has even come close to saying its even beyond reasonable doubt. Why does Comey feel the need to make this ridiculous claim? Does he think that false equivalency makes him look even minded? For me it just makes him look the fool that history will judge him to be.

1 Like

FBI investigation
Like all investigations, one thing leads to another. Are we to suppose that because of Trump’s restrictions, FBI won’t follow up on leads from testimonies? “Oh she revealed who was in the house who would know a lot more than she did, but we can’t confirm, we can’t interview the other people she named because, the White House.”

1 Like

In fact no one has even come close to saying its even beyond reasonable doubt.

I believe he did it. I think some senators do also. It’s a fair assertion even though perhaps no senator has outright said so.

1 Like

"They also know that little lies point to bigger lies. They know that obvious lies by the nominee about the meaning of words in a yearbook are a flashing signal to dig deeper.”

That,s exactly what I was thinking when Kavanaugh made up the shit about what devil’s triangle meant. 1st and foremost, your under oath and lying, 2nd not giving the real meaning shows you’re trying, unsuccessfully, to cover up your overtly sexual teen years. And his defensiveness about his drinking makes me not only suspect that he got drunk a lot but that he still does,

And another little lie
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/busted-brett-kavanaugh-lied-busting-tail-get-yale-no-connections-legacy/

and another
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/busted-brett-kavanaugh-lied-busting-tail-get-yale-no-connections-legacy/

And wonkette points out all the grounded days on Kav’s calendar. Interesting to see one seem to indicate he has to go to St. Michael’s. Wonder if that was a church and confession?

2 Likes

Especially that drama queen, Lindsey Graham. I want him to eat every false indignant word he has spewed in the last week.

4 Likes

At the end of the day Comey is republican, and he’s fine with Kavanaugh on the bench.