Discussion: Collins Gets An Earful On Health Care At Parade: 'There Was Only One Issue'

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The senator added Tuesday that so-called health savings accounts, tax-incentivized accounts from which consumers pay for medical services, ā€œcan work,ā€ with enough federal funding.

ā€œIf you have a Health Savings Account that is federally funded, that equals the deductible, that can work, but it has to be designed right,ā€ she said. ā€œI donā€™t want to see insurance thatā€™s not really insurance.ā€

How would this be different from the current subsidy with the ACA? I thought the whole issue with ā€œObamaCareā€ was that the government was involved with it.

ETA: Thanks to the Rethugs for providing the Dems with our strongest issue going into '18 midterms. Much obliged.

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It would cease to be ā€œObamacare.ā€

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jesus help us what a stupid bitch

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ā€œI heard, over and over again, encouragement for my stand against the current version of the Senate and House health care bills. People were thanking me, over and over again. ā€˜Thank you, Susan!ā€™ ā€˜Stay strong, Susan!ā€™ā€

Motion to repeal the ACA: Collins (R) Maine--"Aye"

Motion to pass the ACHA: Collins (R) Maine--"Aye"
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We need a rhetorical-question emoji, maybe someone looking innocently at the sky and whistling.

Jim Newell wrote at least a year ago in Slate that if the GOP wanted to take a real run at the ACA and commit political suicide as a party in the process, the Democrats were willing to hold their beers for them.

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Sheā€™s definitely going to cave.

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Intetesting, Trump wrote a similar note to Kim Jong Il.

Fear is strong with our unthinking masses

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Sad that weā€™ve reached the point where at a Fourth of July parade Americans have to beg their senators not to kill them.

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Unless we get 2 more GOP senators to block, she wonā€™t have to

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This is a game. If Collinsā€™ or some other Senatorā€™s vote is not needed they can vote no. Otherwise they have to suck it up.People need to understand also that the only important matter is which party controls Congress, not whether their candidate dissents, even if there views are authentic.

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Iā€™m not so sure about that. Collins just found out that sheā€™s on the right path to the governorā€™s house in ME. If she caves now, she might as well forget any future ambitions in the State. THIS is the path forward to success for her.

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Surprised?? Really?

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No one throwing voter registration cards and Social Security numbers at her screaming, ā€œGive my life and rights to Trump and Kobachā€?

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Really, Susan? You were surprised? Nice little bubble ya got there. Be a shame if anything happened to it.

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it really is surprising how upset people can get when youā€™re tying to kill them and their parents and kids.

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ā€œI heard, over and over again, encouragement for my stand against the current version of the Senate and House health care bills."

The important, operative term in that sentence is ā€˜current version.ā€™ I take that to mean that Susan Collins is totally open to the idea of killing the ACA and depriving millions of Americans of access to healthcare and meaningful insurance coverage so long as she has the necessary political cover.

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For several years now, first my law firm and now my private company have employed health savings accounts. Donā€™t let her fool you. While an HSA helps, it is not the be all, end all of health care. They are complicated and work only if you have the cash you need to contribute.

The problem with health insurance is insurance providers only administer the payment of your money to health care providers. The more premiums they collect the more they make. They donā€™t have any incentive to reduce health care costs, and donā€™t do much to keep costs down. There are simply no market forces acting to keep provider costs down.

A decade ago my company invented and patented software to keep health care costs down by helping a physician identify the exact tests needed in a given case. The product bombed because the physicians make money administering a broad array of tests. They have lots of excuses including fear of malpractice and professional autonomy, but donā€™t kid yourself they like the money they collect doing unnecessary tests. We tried to sell the technology to insurance companies. They rejected it for the same reasons. Such technological innovation is attractive only when the government steps in and demands providers reduce costs.

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Laser-focused on the TV cameraā€¦

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Always assume a politician will cravenly and shamelessly act in their own best interest. Do not assume that this interest necessarily aligns with the party of which they are a member.

It probably/usually does, but it is not axiomatic.

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